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Transferring / Re: 3.4 at T4 -- Where to transfer...
« on: March 25, 2007, 06:23:53 PM »
I'm a 1L at Suffolk Univ. Law School with a 3.4 after first semester (top 20%). I would like to stay in Boston next year, perhaps at BU or BC. Any thoughts on my chances? Is anyone familiar with BU/BC's transfer policies (i.e. are they transfer friendly?). I also gave some thought to Fordham, Brooklyn, American and GW. Any thoughts?

Not sure about the transfer policies at any of these schools, but I think without improvement, that BU/BC/GW are stretches...I think you need to be in at least the top 10% to get into one of those schools. Fordham might be a stretch as well, but if you can get up to top 15% you've got a shot. I'd say you have a good shot with American, and a very good shot at getting into Brooklyn.

If NY/Boston/DC are the areas you're considering, why not look at the following as well: Northeastern (#87); St. Johns (#80); Cardozo (#57). I'd say with your grades, these schools are likely a lock for you. Are there any other areas you'd consider relocating to?


NY and DC are the only other cities I'm interested in at this point. To be honest, I wasn't considering Northeastern; reliable sources have told me that NU is overrated and that, despite its lower ranking, Suffolk is a better school in the Boston market. Thanks for your advice / suggestions, however...

How well do UConn grads do in Boston? I know it's not Boston/DC/NYC, but I would imagine it would have a pretty decent rep in New England.

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Transferring / Re: 3.4 at T4 -- Where to transfer...
« on: March 25, 2007, 05:21:41 PM »
I'm a 1L at Suffolk Univ. Law School with a 3.4 after first semester (top 20%). I would like to stay in Boston next year, perhaps at BU or BC. Any thoughts on my chances? Is anyone familiar with BU/BC's transfer policies (i.e. are they transfer friendly?). I also gave some thought to Fordham, Brooklyn, American and GW. Any thoughts?

Not sure about the transfer policies at any of these schools, but I think without improvement, that BU/BC/GW are stretches...I think you need to be in at least the top 10% to get into one of those schools. Fordham might be a stretch as well, but if you can get up to top 15% you've got a shot. I'd say you have a good shot with American, and a very good shot at getting into Brooklyn.

If NY/Boston/DC are the areas you're considering, why not look at the following as well: Northeastern (#87); St. Johns (#80); Cardozo (#57). I'd say with your grades, these schools are likely a lock for you. Are there any other areas you'd consider relocating to?

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Current Law Students / Re: Appalachian..Florida Coastal...Barry Law..
« on: March 21, 2007, 04:06:18 PM »
Appalachian..Florida Coastal...Barry Law..

Ok, so I already know that these schools may be at the bottom of most peoples lists but I was wondering if anyone on here either attends one of these schools or plans to in the fall. I got accepted to all three, but I am  still waiting to hear from 6 other schools; One in New york, two in NC and a couple others in Florida. I really wanted some advice from anyone that has any information about any of these schools. If I don't get in any other schools I def. WILL be attending one of the three so I just need a little more information.  I appreciate any info you can offer. Thanks.

Dont want to burst your bubble about Florida Coastal, but one of the transfer students at my current school attended Florida Coastal. He said that the curve was ridiculously low. He said he was just below a 3.0 and was in the top 20% of the class. He also mentioned that the school fails out a ton of people, and even in your 2L year, you're still subject to the same strict/low curve as your first year.

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Law School Admissions / Re: Rejections from Law Schools
« on: March 19, 2007, 08:14:06 PM »
Hi, thanks for your response. 
 
Yes, I am a minority.

I have employment/experience history from law firms working as a Bankruptcy Legal Assistant (I didn't do filing or any regular assistant duties) My duties were reviewing motions and stipulations for 17 states nationwide.  I also have experience in Healthcare, Background investigations for nuclear power plants and currently working as a loan officer for a mortgage company.  I have been working since 19 and I am not 27. 

Here are the lists of the schools I am still waiting on.
Golden Gate University
Southwestern Law
St. Thomas University
Indiana University - Indianapolis
University of Baltimore

I just recently applied to the following schools below:
Florida Coastal School of Law
Texas Southern University
University of La Verne

I seriously don't know if my school has anything to do with this because I believe that I am the first graduate to attend law school from my undergrad school. I also was thinking if its my major in Psychology.  I don't know anymore to tell you honestly.  But I have made some plan B's.  I was thinking of pursuing another Bachelor's degree in Business from a California State University and review the LSAT and re-take it again for the second time.  What do you think I should do?

Could be falling for the biggest flame ever being that you've started 3/4 different threads asking essentially the same question

Don't see the point in pursuing another degree...add Cooley and other low T4's to the list and pray...otherwise take a year off and reapply

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Nashville School of Law / Re: Admission chances?
« on: March 19, 2007, 06:59:59 PM »
Don't go to Nashville.  I bet you could get into a fully accredited (ABA/AALS) T4 with 2.0/160, possibly even a T3 (but that's a long shot).

I think LSAT matters slightly more than UGPA in admissions.

I second this notion. With good/great LOR's and a good personal statement (how you are not the same unmotivated person you were in college, how you've grown, raised a family, received all A's in later coursework, etc), you can most definitely get into an ABA accredited school. Being that you're an older student to be, I think the adcomms would put less weight on your poor academic performance 13 years ago than they would on your current achievements/growth and desire to provide a better life for yourself and your family. It can't hurt to apply to Nashville, but don't sell yourself short. Call some schools and speak to their deans/directors of admission about your situation and get some feedback. Good luck with everything

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Law School Admissions / Re: Rejections from Law Schools
« on: March 19, 2007, 06:46:34 PM »
I'm not sure if this is a flame or not, but I'll bite on this being real. I'm not sure what your safeties are, but if you shot for anything higher than a T4, you wont get in. And to be brutally honest, most T4's are probably a stretch for you at this point. Couple of questions/suggestions

1. Are you a minority student?

2. Did you apply to Cooley/Appalachian Law?

3. How many times did you take the LSAT?

If you're a minority and you applied to Cooley/Appalachian/Regent or a similarly situated T4 school, then I think you have a 50/50 shot at getting into one of those. Otherwise, my best suggestion for you would be to hire a tutor and retake the LSAT this summer and reapply. If it makes you feel any better, I scored a 139 on my first practice LSAT, and was able to bring that up to a 151 when I took the actual test. If you could pull yourself into the 150 range, bringing your average up to a 146/147, then you'll stand a better shot. A last ditch option is to wait the couple of years it takes for your LSAT to expire, gain work experience, and retake the test and reapply. Good luck

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When you factor in pension and the other govt benefits, a $55K salary is more like a $65-80K per year salary. That and you can work relatively normal hours and have a life. My father is an asst prosecutor...on the low end of the pay scale for lawyers overall...but will retire with something in the ball park of 70-75% of his highest salary as pension. If you start fresh out of school and stay at your govt job, it's possible to retire before 50...leaving you free to do other part time work so you can net "two incomes"

I'm not sure about the $6K per year towards your student loans, but if that's the case, that's not too bad. If you're $120K in debt, and you shell out $6K of your income (or even half or lower if your spouse is contributing), then you can essentially pay off your loans between 10-15 years...which beats the 30 year repayment plan

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Current Law Students / Re: What to do the summer before law school?
« on: March 05, 2007, 08:38:49 AM »
Have fun, get wasted, enjoy leisure reading if that's your thing. Don't read law school prep books, E&E, or take any law school prep courses. You don't need any of that to do well in law school.

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Transferring / Re: Chances of transferring - T4 currently top 30%
« on: February 23, 2007, 12:22:31 PM »

I'm currently a 1L at Chapman in the top 30% (3.0 cum on a 2.8 curve); I am in the top 10% in 2 of my classes including LRW. I love the school but I want to transfer to a school with better post-graduation opportunities. What are my chances of transferring to USD/Pepperdine/Loyola? If my chances of transferring aren't good right now, what cum gpa/what rank do I have to have to make my chances of transferring better? I've already posted to the Yahoo! transfer group & I really didn't get much of a response so I though I'd see what everyone over here has to say.

Thanks everyone! :)

I posted my results on the yahoo database, but I also transferred from a T4 to a PSU (same rank as Pepperdine), and received an acceptance to Seton Hall (close in rank to Loyola/USD). I had a year of work experience and two decent LOR's. I was in the top 31% with a 3.2 on a 2.7 curve. I think if you maintain your GPA, you have a good shot at Pepperdine, and if you're able to improve, you'll have a good shot at Loyola/USD. Keep working hard.

Couple of suggestions, things to think about:
1. I'd suggest getting your applications out sooner than later...not that they'll accept you anytime soon but just to show the interest.

2. I'd also call and speak to one of the directors/deans of admission to gauge how transfer friendly they are (how many applied last year and how many accepted, what gpa's they're looking for, etc).

3. Also, do you have reasons that you want to transfer into those schools other than better job prospects? I'd highlight those as well in your PS.

4. Do you have any low grades? Like a C or lower? I didn't try to "explain away" my low grade through an addendum, but the dean of the school I was accepted to confirmed what I thought...that he wrote the low grade off as an anomaly. If you have one bad grade, and dont get any more bad grades, schools might completely write it off, and might look at you as having a better rank/GPA than a 3.0 and top 30%.

Hope this helps. Good luck..

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Transferring / Re: Transfer Applications and "What If's".....
« on: February 20, 2007, 12:00:24 PM »
I jumped from T4 to low T2 with 3.2 and top 33%. Girl in my study group jumped from T4 to UM with a 3.9 and top 5%. Place in the top third or so and you can most likely get into any T3 and many low to mid T2's.

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