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Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: April 29, 2008, 07:48:34 AM »
John Marshall is downtown.. Lake Meadows is about 15 minutes by car to downtown.. i actually went to an elementary school in that area.. Hyde Park is about 20 minutes by car to downtown as well.. it all depends on your budget and what you're looking for..i can def help you out regarding finding housing...Hyde Park  Chicago is the most diverse.. you'll see a lot   of middle to upper middle class blks there (but there are plenty of affordable apts in that area as well).. however they're also sprinkled throughout the north side and downtown areas. of course the closer to downtown you are...the more expensive it'll be ...

Lol Thanks Blk reign yea i meant MA as in Massachusetts. I was wondering where to live since i dont know the area i have a friend who lives at Lake Meadows but i am not sure how close that is to the law school and what areas are safe? i looked on craiglist and got confused because i dont recognize any of the areas.

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Black Law Students / Re: Calling all Current and Former Law Students
« on: April 28, 2008, 06:01:02 PM »
OP and others with this question..relax and enjoy life..this will be the last free summer until you retire..

*drops the mic*

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Black Law Students / Re: Post Your Interesting News Articles Here
« on: April 28, 2008, 04:54:52 PM »
transcript of yesterday's speech cui- http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/28/wright.transcript/


and um.. one passing statement about a book isn't promoting the book.. u had me thinking that he called out a book title said get it on the stands etc etc.. good lord...

see what we do?

he's not tearing Obama down.. i totally disagree on that.. on some levels it's obvious that i'm an Obama supporter.. but his stuttering and evading questions without standing firm when confronted on these things is what makes him look silly to me at times.. he can speak but @ times when dealing with that one on one pressure it seems that he has gr8 difficulty dealing with the impact of the confrontation.. and i think this issue comes into play when it's a matter of race..

and i agree with Wright in that.. Obama said what he had to say..that is the truth..if he didn't denounce the statements or say certain things he could kiss his campaign goodbye..and seriously..we cannot live in this world scared.. censoring ourselves because the media or whites or asians or other blks or whoever u want to throw in that example feel..

and cui seriously.. u sound a bit like fox news about now.. "he doesn't see this through the prism of obama's political fortunes..he sees them through the prism of his own fortune"..  direct quote from what one of these commentators just said

even in talking to some people that have been to his church.. or folks that have never heard him speak.. they see the spin..

here's today's interview.. i haven't read it yet http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/28/transcript-rev-wright-at-the-national-press-club/

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Black Law Students / Re: Post Your Interesting News Articles Here
« on: April 28, 2008, 11:58:49 AM »
haven't heard the Oreilly or Irish statement so no comment to that.. i'll probably stumble across a transcription of it later on tonight however..

and why now what? why speak now? as opposed to three weeks ago? do u know what's going on in Chicago right now? there have been so many kids killed within recent weeks that some of the attention has been focused on that (no u won't find his involvement online)...aside from that there have been 4 major deaths @ the church over the course of the past few months.. i mean really whose timeline are we on here?  i can honestly say that if it was me i'd certainly pray over how i'd deal with the situation and i wouldn't address the matter right away..

who did Wright tear down? Obama? u think he's tearing Obama down because he's addressing the scrutiny that he received from the media over sermons that were preached yrs ago? this whole situation is vile.. hannity went back yrs to pull out pieces of sermons to paint him into a caricature.. there's really no arguing against that statement of fact..

hmm the last time i checked.. at most of these blk events.. the speakers mention their books.. dyson..west.. smiley etc.. and what's the book title btw?  just curious before i argue that point

and seriously.. Wright is far from arrogant.. it would have been "all about him" if he came out and said something immediately after Obama's speech..

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Black Law Students / Re: Post Your Interesting News Articles Here
« on: April 28, 2008, 11:56:27 AM »
haven't heard the Oreilly or Irish statement so no comment to that.. i'll probably stumble across a transcription of it later on tonight however..

and why now what? why speak now? as opposed to three weeks ago? do u know what's going on in Chicago right now? there have been so many kids killed within recent weeks that some of the attention has been focused on that (no u won't find his involvement online)...aside from that there have been 4 major deaths @ the church over the course of the past few months.. i mean really whose timeline are we on here?  i can honestly say that if it was me i'd certainly pray over how i'd deal with the situation and i wouldn't address the matter right away..

who did Wright tear down? Obama? u think he's tearing Obama down because he's addressing the scrutiny that he received from the media over sermons that were preached yrs ago? this whole situation is vile.. hannity went back yrs to pull out pieces of sermons to paint him into a caricature.. there's really no arguing against that statement of fact..

hmm the last time i checked.. at most of these blk events.. the speakers mention their books.. dyson..west.. smiley etc.. and what's the book title btw?  just curious before i argue that point

and seriously.. Wright is far from arrogant.. it would have been "all about him" if he came out and said something immediately after Obama's speech..

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Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: April 28, 2008, 10:33:11 AM »
yay.. and u survived lol

Done! Phew!  :)

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Black Law Students / Re: Post Your Interesting News Articles Here
« on: April 28, 2008, 10:32:47 AM »
and another thing (i don't feel like going back to edit lol) he didn't speak at the NAACP event to speak about himself..the message was about acceptance and change.. two- five comments out of what was probably an hour long speech addressing divisiveness or media bs really isn't a big deal

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Black Law Students / Re: Post Your Interesting News Articles Here
« on: April 28, 2008, 10:25:55 AM »
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/NEWS06/804280436

The simple message that being different doesn't mean a person is deficient was delivered with passion, anger, even humor Sunday night by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright as the controversial Chicago minister captivated a sell-out crowd at the NAACP's Freedom Fund dinner.

Through language, music and the ways people learn, Wright showed that African Americans and European Americans are merely different from each other, not inferior or superior in any way.

"In the past, we were taught to see others who are different as deficient, and that anybody not like us was abnormal," said Wright, former pastor of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. "But a change is coming because we no longer see others who are different as deficient; we just see them as different."

The theme, repeated throughout a 40-minute speech, was especially powerful coming from Wright, who has been targeted in recent weeks as an anti-American, anti-white preacher because of snippets from sermons he has given over the years that have been played and replayed on network news shows.

The furor caused Obama to give a speech on race, in which he disavowed some of Wright's remarks, but not the man.

But Wright took a shot at the news media and Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson for demonizing him over the controversial passages.

"The NAACP has been built on a primary premise: that all men and women are created equal. The nation's oldest civil rights organization has changed America's history despite violence, intimidation and hostile government policies.

"Somebody please tell the Oakland County executive that the sentence starting with the words 'despite violence,' is a direct quote from the NAACP. Otherwise, he will attribute the quote to me and continue to say that I'm one of the most divisive people he's ever heard speak, when he's never heard me speak," Wright said.

"I know some say that just my appearance in Detroit will be polarizing. But I'm not here for political reasons. I'm not a politician. Many in the corporate-owned media have made it seem that I'm running for the Oval Office. I've been running for Jesus for a long, long time, and I'm not tired yet," he added.

"I'm sorry your local political analysts are saying I'm polarizing and my sermons are divisive. I'm not here to address an analyst's opinion. I stand here as one representative of the African-American church tradition, believing that a change is going to come."
Exploring the differences

The rest of the address was geared toward understanding and accepting differences, which are as much about culture as they are about skin color.

Black children are told they don't speak English well, when people from Boston or Texas, like the Kennedys or former president Lyndon Johnson, aren't ridiculed for their accents, he said.

"After Kennedy got killed, Johnson got up to the podium and said, 'My fellow Americans,' " Wright said, imitating Johnson's Texas drawl. "Well how do you spell 'fello.' How do you spell ''Mericans.' Nobody said to Johnson, 'You speak bad English.' "

Bands from the University of Michigan or Michigan State University aren't criticized because they use classical marching band precision while African-American bands from Florida A&M or Grambling State universities strut and dance onto the football field, Wright said while demonstrating the rhythm that have made those bands famous.

"We just do it different, and some of our haters just can't get their heads around that," he said.

The speech was distinctly nonpolitical, although Wright made a passing reference to Obama, saying, "If I was pushing a candidate, I would say, 'Yes we can,' " which is one of Obama's main campaign slogans.

But the Rev. Wendell Anthony, the president of the Detroit chapter of the NAACP, said the main reason the organization invited Wright to speak at the dinner was to defend the traditional role of the African-American church, not because there was a heated race for president between Obama and Sens. Hillary Clinton and John McCain.

"It's bigger than all three of them. This is about the African-American church. This is about our church. This is about our people. This is about our right to speak truth to power. It is not a white thing, nor is it a black thing. It is the right thing we're doing here tonight," Anthony said.

"We've had a history of inviting the most profound, prolific leaders of our nation," Anthony said during a news conference before the dinner. "We look for the best, and the hottest brother in America right now -- other than Barack Obama -- is Jeremiah Wright."
Tool for understanding?

The crowd responded to Wright with shouts of acceptance and understanding and standing ovations.

"I love the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright. I've been listening to him for many years," said Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, explaining that one of his fraternity brothers at Florida A&M University was a member of Wright's church and shared tapes of his sermons. "He's a prolific prince of prose."

State Rep. George Cushingberry, D-Detroit, said the speech was fabulous, and, he hoped, a tool for understanding between races.

"Maybe people will question the lies that they're told," he said

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Black Law Students / Re: Post Your Interesting News Articles Here
« on: April 28, 2008, 10:12:29 AM »
he spoke with Moyers because Moyers is also a member of the United Church of Christ..asked for an interview and he knew that the interview wouldn't be tainted..he wouldn't be talked over and he'd be given a fair opportunity to really address the soundbites...unlike Hannity for example

as for NAACP.. why not speak? this time last yr you had no clue who Wright was..he speaks yearly @ various churches and events..he preaches @ Howard and other universities every yr.. so you're suggesting that he stops his ministry simply because Obama is running for President? people that don't vote for Obama under the moniker of Wright weren't going to vote for him anyway.. and that's real... but Wright shouldn't simply "sit down somewhere" because a member is running for office... that's silly...

the "controversy" won't die if the media continues to do what they do.. sneak into funerals..call members on sick and shut in lists.. send bomb threats to the church..threaten the life of Wright his family as well as Moss and his family.. i mean really cui.. what is he supposed to do? be a good little #%@! and take the *&^%?

there is a bit of an attack on the traditions of the black church in some of this.. conspiracy theories aside.. i've heard Hannity, Oreilly, Joe and a bunch of other white folk on there try to play into his intonations at certain parts of the sermons..talking about how he gets irate.. loud.. etc as if it is threatening and plays into the stereotypes of blk men being a threat.. totally negating the fact that it is a trend for blk pastors to have their voices raise and command attention at certain points

and then they act as if Wright had a 'media makeover' because he wasn't using the same intonations in his interviews... foolishness

In case you missed the Wright interview http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/watch.html

Hm I definitely have a more favorable opinion of him after watching this.

Agreed but I still think he needs to STFU and let the "controversy" die. 

Well, if the media portrayed you as a racist, anti-american bigot and you were getting death threats, I bet you'd want to clear the air, too.

Not at the expense of a black man that has a good chance at the White House that could actually bring some much needed positive change in this country.  Particularly a person with whom he had such a close relationship with. A man of God really shouldn't be that vain. The people who got the real message behind what he said got it and the people that took what he said out of context will stay ignorant regardless of what he says now. He needs to STFU for now not forever. Give Obama a chance to breathe before Clinton's people create yet another manufactured distraction disguised as a "controversy".

This just gives the media and HRC license to bring it up all over again and show that clip ad nauseum. 

The only mistake Wright made was going on mainstreme media in the first place. Stick to public radio and televison. I so understand why all the members of the SCOTUS reject cameras in the courtroom. The audio is available to the public and without edit or editorial.


I agree with you there but that's not the ONLY mistake Wright has made.  I agree with a lot of what he says and I listened to what he had to say last night.  He's intelligent but I  do not understand why he had to speak with Moyers AND to the NAACP AND to the Press Club?!?!?!  It's basically the same speech. 

Why does he call the attacks on him as an attack on the black church?  Sorry I am sometimes prone to accepting conspiracy theories as truth but I think this one takes it too far.  The media attacked him not the entire black church. 

And why did he mention his book in his NAACP speech?  And he lost me with that Irish comment last night.  So rather than supporting Obama by letting this die a little before he speaks out he rather promote his book?   



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Black Law Students / Re: The Howard Law/HBCU Law Schools Thread
« on: April 28, 2008, 09:55:33 AM »
did (s)he really say "so obliviously?"  :D :D :D

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