« on: May 02, 2008, 03:51:04 PM »
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It wasnt until the 90's that players started entering the draft straight out of high school. So it's only natural for these young males to be misguided. They were basically boys taking on a man's role. Many of them were 17 coming into the NBA. Therefore they had no education and poor guidance. I agree, the 80's cats were better role models. The new role prohibits them from leaving straight out of high school. But every era has it's bad guys....
now.. let me point out that you've proven Wright's point in that Obama has said what he's had to say for political reasons.. he never said that Obama didn't believe what he said per se.. but he has called it for what it is..
Not to bring this back up, but I was away most of yesterday and never got a chance to respond to black reign (i love that name by the way) I don't agree with you at all here, simply because if Obama wanted to be politically expedient, he could have cut the cord with Rev. Wright back in March when the controversy first started. He's never shown an inclination to lean towards expediency. He could have sided with McCain and Hillary's backing of suspending the fuel excise tax, but he didn't at a time when gas is damn near 4 bucks a gallon. That surely would have been the easy way out. Obama already showed his loyalty to the Rev, unfortunately the Rev didn't reciprocate.
have you ever been to a black church? Notice on Bill Moyer, Wright spoke differently than he did at the two religious events on CSPAN. It's not arrogance.
and why now? better now than in November.
& even better after Obama takes it. Not that it will make a significant diff.
Of course I've been to a black church. I go to a black church, Baptist. I understand the argument (yes the mainstream absolutely doesn’t get the black church but I think it’s both an attack on him and the black church but MORESO an attack on him)but I do think his speeches…well…particularly the Q & A session came across extremely arrogant even though the questions were dumb as hell at times. It was moreso his demeanor than anything he said.
But come on, he threw Obama under a bus for personal gain. And he put Obama in a tight spot. No matter what Obama said both sides of this debate would be unhappy.
Preaching? Is that really what he’s doing now? One thing about that still irks me. Would he be preaching in this manner (you know on Bill Moyers, throwing Obama under a bus, etc.) had it not been for the media attack? If not, he should just go on as he would have normally.
cui.. i found out some more info about the recent appearance... the "timing" behind the press club event had nothing to do with Wright.. it's an annual event that he speaks at every yr.. the Samuel Dewitt Proctor Conference (where he also serves on the Board of Directors).. in fact Obama spoke at the conference in 06.. the difference now is that there was a lot of media coverage because they knew that Wright would be there.. he didn't call a press conference to "make it about him".. this is a conference among preachers and leaders
so the reality of this situation is that the only "event" that Wright actually scheduled surrounding his bad press is the Moyer's interview...
Good stuff, thanks.
It is not just that though. He should have left that Obama stuff out. And with some of those questions I’d expect some people may be flippant HOWEVER, I’d expect a man of God to kind of rise above that- that’s what I meant by saying that. But for his flippant demeanor, throwing Obama a bit under the bus, using this as the subject matter several times in a matter of days EVEN if the event was previously scheduled, I think I’d be more ‘on his side’. On March 18 in Philly, Obama denounced the comments Wright had made but not him.
And the media’s messin’ up again: WTF is up with calling it a “divorce”. And WTF is up with all of the newspaper headlines “fury”. The Obama I saw was frustrated but “a fury”?