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Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 07, 2007, 08:54:10 PM »
well we're both right.. the issue is taking the term out of if its basic definition and coining it as a negative term that tends to be targeted @ "upper middle & upper class" blacks.. bourgie becomes synonymous with stuck up and that's why the word is so problematic to me.. it probably has something to do with where (chicago) and how i was raised.. but i don't see anything positive with it..for example if someone called me preppy it wouldn't affect or offend me but bourgie? you might as well call me stuck up and pretentious.. and i'm neither...

well to me.. one doesn't attribute "nerd" to class..whereas being called bourgie is typically a class issue.. and creates some sort of social divide which in my opinion is totally unnecessary.. at least from what i have experienced through the yrs... being called bourgie doesn't necessarily mean that one is "acting white" however it means that you're elitist.. only associate with those of a certain class and look down on those that don't have..

calling someone a nerd imo only seems offensive to children who are being ragged on by the less smart students that they're dealing with.. in this forum where u have a bunch of ivies and law students calling each other nerd it's like

hello pot have u met kettle? :D :D :D

How does either imply the other?  There are poor nerds and dumb bougies.

lol.  I am a dumb and downwardly mobile quasi-bou(r)gie nerd.

My question was totally unclear.  I didn't meant that being a nerd was the same as being bou(r)gie.  I meant that, to perhaps a similar extent that calling a black person "bou(r)gie" is saying that she acts white or is not black enough (this is not my theory, and I don't wholly subscribe to it; I am going off of KD's and Blk's concerns), calling a black person a nerd may also be an accusation that she acts white or is not black enough.  I was hoping people could talk about why one is seemingly more offensive than the other.


How does either imply the other?  There are poor nerds and dumb bougies.

exactly apples and oranges....and white nerds and black nerds and asian nerds etc.

Oops, that's not what I meant.  I hope my clarification made sense. :)

I don't agree with this.  Bougie can be neutral (ie upper (middle) class) or it can have the negative values that you ascribe.  It depends on the context, tone, etc.

I actually agree with Alci on this one.

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Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 07, 2007, 08:43:33 PM »
 :D u're absolutely right

'DOG' WHIMPERS EXCUSE: GUESS I'M NOT BLACK

I'm not buying it when the whole point of his tirade was that he couldn't stand to have his use of the word discovered.  This would be time for someone to go with a "n-word please" but, um, I'm not black.

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Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 07, 2007, 08:41:57 PM »
well to me.. one doesn't attribute "nerd" to class..whereas being called bourgie is typically a class issue.. and creates some sort of social divide which in my opinion is totally unnecessary.. at least from what i have experienced through the yrs... being called bourgie doesn't necessarily mean that one is "acting white" however it means that you're elitist.. only associate with those of a certain class and look down on those that don't have..

calling someone a nerd imo only seems offensive to children who are being ragged on by the less smart students that they're dealing with.. in this forum where u have a bunch of ivies and law students calling each other nerd it's like

hello pot have u met kettle? :D :D :D

How does either imply the other?  There are poor nerds and dumb bougies.

lol.  I am a dumb and downwardly mobile quasi-bou(r)gie nerd.

My question was totally unclear.  I didn't meant that being a nerd was the same as being bou(r)gie.  I meant that, to perhaps a similar extent that calling a black person "bou(r)gie" is saying that she acts white or is not black enough (this is not my theory, and I don't wholly subscribe to it; I am going off of KD's and Blk's concerns), calling a black person a nerd may also be an accusation that she acts white or is not black enough.  I was hoping people could talk about why one is seemingly more offensive than the other.


How does either imply the other?  There are poor nerds and dumb bougies.

exactly apples and oranges....and white nerds and black nerds and asian nerds etc.

Oops, that's not what I meant.  I hope my clarification made sense. :)

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Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 07, 2007, 08:25:44 PM »
'DOG' WHIMPERS EXCUSE: GUESS I'M NOT BLACK

By ERIC LENKOWITZ

November 7, 2007 -- It took Duane "Dog" Chapman 54 years to figure out what the world has long known - he's not black.

The blond-haired bounty hunter explained last night that he thought his prolific use of the n-word was OK because of a bond he shares with the black community. He said that in the wake of the recent uproar it has caused, "I now learned I'm not black at all.

"I thought that I was cool enough in the black world to be able to use that word as a brother to a brother. I'm not," Chapman told Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes."

"I didn't really know until three or four days ago what that meant to black people.

"I never realized it is like stabbing a black person in the heart," he said, choking back tears.

The reality show star - whose series has been axed by A&E - came under fire after a profanity-laced tape surfaced last Wednesday on The National Enquirer's Web site, on which he berates his estranged son, Tucker, for dating African-American teacher Monique Shinnery.

Chapman believes Tucker got $15,000 for the tape and speculated he used it for drugs.

In a videotaped interview with the Enquirer, Shinnery said, "I believe that Duane is a racist because I have heard many times what he says about me - not just this one time, but a lot of things he says and a lot of things he does."

Chapman began crying when he saw Shinnery's clip, and said, "I'm so sorry, honey, I'm so sorry. I'm not like that. I'm very sorry."

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Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 06, 2007, 08:41:41 PM »
Costume Prompts Apology at Agency
By SUZANNE GAMBOA,
AP
Posted: 2007-11-06 11:24:53
Filed Under: Nation News, Politics News
WASHINGTON (Nov. 5) -- A top immigration official has apologized after awarding "most original costume" to a Homeland Security Department employee who dressed in prison stripes, dreadlocks and dark makeup for a Halloween gathering at the agency.

Julie Myers, assistant secretary overseeing Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement division, was part of a three-judge panel that lauded the costume, worn by a white employee, last Wednesday. She also posed for a photo with him.

Myers apologized to employees last Friday in an e-mail, saying some costumes were found to be offensive. On Friday, she called the National Association of African Americans in DHS to inform the group of what had happened, according to a letter sent to association members by the group's vice president, Sjon Shavers.

"I and the senior management at ICE deeply regret that this happened," Myers said in her e-mail, which Homeland Security's public affairs office provided to The Associated Press. "As the head of the agency, I have the responsibility to ensure every employee is a valued member of the ICE team."

The agency Myers heads is responsible for apprehending and jailing violators of immigration and customs laws, including conducting raids at work sites to round up undocumented workers.

The employee who wore the costume was not identified, but ICE spokeswoman Kelly Nantel said he was counseled by his supervisor. He was not wearing blackface but makeup that was a darker color than his skin, Nantel said.

Myers and others who saw him could not tell he was wearing makeup, Nantel said, and they learned he wore makeup when some employees complained later that day.

The photo of Myers with the employee and any others taken by the official photographer showing the costume were discarded, Nantel said.

Shavers, an ICE special agent, said he learned of the incident from Myers and that his group had not received any complaints.

"These kinds of things, incidents, happen all the time, so we handle them on a case-by-case basis," Shavers said.

Lisa Navarrete, a spokeswoman for the National Council of La Raza, a national Hispanic civil rights organization, said it was completely appropriate for Myers to apologize.

"He was clearly trying to not be Caucasian. How dark or light he is, is beside the point. It is a costume that people did find and would find offensive that was sanctioned by the executives," Navarrete said. "There's obviously a sensitivity issue that ICE needs to address with its own staff."

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agreed..

Black people are ignorant if they support a black man because he's black over a white person who will really protect their interests. I don't think having Clarence Thomas on the Court has done us anything but harm.

(Of course BO is certainly no Clarence Thomas, but support him because you think he's the best, not because he's black. By that same logic women should support HRC because she's one of them...so Barack would lose.)

B probably titled this thread as such because he knew someone would respond based on title alone..whereas he noticed no one was posting in the others lol

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Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 04, 2007, 06:48:23 PM »
hell i'm about to bump the big payback in a minute  :D

:::starts humming Papa Don't Take No Mess:::

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Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 04, 2007, 06:23:56 PM »
yes they know.. i incorporated that in my insurance claim a few months back as well as my notary stamp...i do not have time for this mess.. i swear it just doesn't stop :(

Do they not know they're dealing with a lawyer?

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Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 04, 2007, 06:14:06 PM »
in an aside.. remember my move from hell??? so i get a letter in the mail from the insurance company representing the movers.. how about they want to settle for $192.... WTF...  >:( .. i know a few of u guys saw the pictures so u know that's not happening..

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Black Law Students / Re: Black Law Student Discussion Board
« on: November 04, 2007, 05:48:10 PM »
 :D


Did you just say scholarship? sexism scholarship? nobody cares about that mess.

Mmkay, honey - we'll see who gets tenure first. :-*

Black and mad is old.  I'd probably beat both of you :P

Sorry Alci - I don't think madras shorts are scholastic discipline as of yet.

Don't worry, once I add my tweed jacket with the elbow patches, it'll be all the craze ;).

Do a bow-tie; I hear all the kids are mad for bow-ties.

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