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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Cost/Benefit Analysis
« on: January 27, 2005, 11:08:09 AM »
Probably a good idea to incorporate highs and lows to that median.  Let's face it, you stand a 50% chance of being above or below that median.  If you incorporate highs and lows (confidence intervals), that will do a better job of showing the possible upside and downside.

It will take more work, and you'll have to perform a quick regression for each school.  Still, if you want the best picture of what school to pick, I don't see any other way around it.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: third tier toilet or "Screw it!"
« on: January 26, 2005, 04:58:42 PM »
A lot of realistic and good hearted advice, I apprecaite it.

This is more me being dejected and bitter after getting dinged at Loyola today than actually considering this.

To give some names to my bitching:
Dinged: U of I, Loyola-Chicago
Def/WL: Chicago-Kent, DePaul
Accepted: John Marshall, Dayton
Pending: Northern Ill

John Marshall has a pretty weak Chicago rep and Nothern Ill is attractive at only $7K a year (in-state) but also not the greatest school. Dayton is also an option if they give me money and I'm content not going back to Chicago.

You do know that Dayton now has a five semester option, don't you?  I don't know if that appeals to you, or not, but getting a JD in 24 calendar months sounds pretty good to me.

Denials / Re: CaTTTholic!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: January 26, 2005, 01:39:01 PM »
hey lord bartha,

i remember you mentioning about certain criminal mischief in your past.
i forget details but do u think maybe that your so called "criminal history" rubbed them the wrong way?

maybe catholic, being a religious school didn't like that?

just trying to think of a reason other than yield protection.

i would have to think in light of what i had to disclose to GW (juvie stuff too), and wound up getting $$, that this was not the issue.  plus i really have done a lot of feel good volunteer stuff, have very strong resume, PS, and LORs... i think my app was pretty solid all around, and the crim stuff was pretty clearly part of my distant past.  but who knows...  i remember reading on the catholic FAQ and thinking they seemed pretty reasonable with crim records.  i was more worried about GMU.

I have to disagree.  I was wondering why you got dinged, considering your numbers.  I'm sure it is your past.  Most schools will overlook that, apparently GW does, but it looks like Catholic does not.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Penn apps up ...
« on: January 26, 2005, 01:05:59 PM »
Isn't this data for last year's entering class?  The article refers to the "Class of 2007."

We are applying for the Class of 2008, right?  We all know applications were way up last year.  All the anecdotal evidence suggests that applications are, for the most part, down just a bit this year.

Law School Applications / Chinese Fortune Cookie
« on: January 26, 2005, 12:53:14 PM »
I don't normally believe in these things, but I do feel a lot better after reading my Chinese fortune cookie during lunch.

Your secret desire to completely change your life will manifest.

Acceptances / Re: $25,000 / Year at Suffolk ... Should I take it and run?
« on: January 25, 2005, 10:22:06 PM »
I have the same problem.

One of the places I wouldn't mind settling down is texas (in fact it keeps looking better and better).  Baylor just offered me a full scholarship (have to stay in the top half).  Do I take it and run?  Graduate debt-free (hopefully) and walk into an "OK" job making 5-figures (unfortunately)?  Or do I hold out for a much higher ranked school, and pay 90k in tuition to have a better chance at a "biglaw" job that I'm not even SURE that I even want?

In your case, JD, it really sounds like Baylor is a great fit for you.  If you are unsure of wanting a BIG LAW job, then make plans for not having a BIG LAW job.  Besides, Baylor is technically a Tier one school right?  It is #50 on the US News rankings.  Why can't you get a BIG LAW job in TX right out of Baylor?

Law School Applications / Re: updated LSN graphs!
« on: January 25, 2005, 09:05:36 PM »
Pookie is the girlfriend every guy wanted in college, don't you know?

Law School Applications / Re: Yield Protection
« on: January 25, 2005, 06:37:19 PM »
As someone who will never have to worry about yield protection, I never looked into how serious schools treat this. Now I'm seeing some head-scratching decisions (greenEggs Cathloic Ding and the Notre Dame WL/Dings.) Does anyone know how much this affects US News rankings? Also which schools are likely to do this? I wouldn't think a low T2 like Catholic would care. Nor would the upper-upper T1s.

I'm not sure I buy into the whole yield-protect thing, any way.  In some ways I think the yield protect myth is created to salve the wounded feelings of over-achievers who get rejected from a school.  Let's face it, there are so many qualified candidates at the top schools that they must simply ding some people.  It's mathematically inevitable that people with great numbers will get dinged from schools where they seemed to stand a pretty good chance of being admitted.

I could be wrong, but I think Pookie said that yield is no longer calculated by US News.

Law School Applications / Re: Pepperdine- Yield Protect?
« on: January 25, 2005, 06:33:11 PM »
Is Pepperdine going to yield protect me? A few acceptances are showing up on LSN already and I haven't heard a peep, despite applying in October. I know people will say that I shouldn't care because I have been accepted to some good schools, but a yield protect rejection would piss me off. What do you all think?

Why worry?  If you are rejected as a yield protect, don't take it personally.

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Schools with the hottest girls.
« on: January 25, 2005, 06:23:41 PM »
Bar passage rates?  Who decides on that criteria?  I definitely am basing 100% of my decision on how many of my classmates will be wearing summer dresses in December...

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