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why would you go to ND (where most students pay way too much for an overrated education and end up in debt for years) if you want to live in WI (no bar), and you can get a JD from a T1 school for free?  besides Madison consistently ranks as one of the best places to live in the certainly kills miserable Indiana, and the winters here are not as bad as they are in Chicago.  besides by this time next year WI will outrank ND, and not just as a university (which it already does) but as a law school. cheers.

Sorry bud, maybe next year.

Current Law Students / Re: MPRE EXAM THIS SATURDAY!
« on: March 10, 2008, 05:31:26 PM »
well,well, how I did?.... I don't know's always the same was my 3th time to take the MPRE...I guess I'm ultra unethical ))))))hopefully this time I did better.First time I got a score of 76 for California the passing score was 79.Second time 67 passing score 79.Know the score is 86????? will see..
I read the statistics for 2005 MPRE, is the % you have mention out of 60 or 50 questions.Did actualy somebody knows how they choose dose 10 question that are not taken into account? Randomly or the questions are initially estableshed? What about if you answer dose 10 question right and they don't count ......I guess you are in trouble.....
I went to Long Beach to take the exam.
p.s. As usual the questions on the real exam were more difficult than dose from the BarBri book sample tests.....

Haha, nice try.

Current Law Students / Re: Help on deciding what to do this summer
« on: February 01, 2008, 10:36:50 PM »
The answer depends on whether you're a 1L or a 2L.

If you're a 1L, you should just take summer school (to include your clinic).  Get ahead with your hours.  Don't worry about "getting experience".  It is not necessary to work as a 1L to get employment offers as a 2L, nor does it help.  Moreover, employers only give permanent employment offers to 2L's.  Anything you do your 1L summer is generally a one-time deal.

If you're a 2L, and you want any shot of having a job lined up at graduation, you need to go to work...with whomever will hire you. 

Lots of 1Ls work at firms their first summer and get full-time offers. We had 3 1Ls out of 15 SAs in my summer class. All 3 got offers conditioned on spending 2 weeks at the firm their 2L summer. Also, from my experience and observation, working at a firm your 1L summer will help you to get a job at a firm your 2L summer.

Job Search / Re: 1L firm jobs
« on: November 03, 2007, 04:59:54 PM »
The firm I summered at (V25) took 3 1Ls out of 16 total. One from Chicago, one from Northwestern and one from Michigan. They all got offers. Don't firms do an OCI for 1Ls shortly after Christmas? 

The first semester of my first year of law school was one of the worst times of my life. I hated the classes, the material, everything. I was confused and stressed out beyond belief. I seriously thought about dropping out. I ended up sticking with it, and when I did well on exams at the end of the semester, my confidence rose. Things started to click for me and the work started to be not so unbearable.

I'm a 3L now, and I'm very glad I didn't drop out. I go to a good school, have good grades and have a good job lined up after graduation. My advice would be to stick with it for a little while longer. I think the feelings you're feeling are typical.

Good luck!

Current Law Students / Re: LSAT necessarily indicative of 1L performance?
« on: October 08, 2007, 11:38:41 AM »
LSAT 148--finised 1L 2nd in my class.

Job Search / Re: Transfer Students in OCI
« on: September 30, 2007, 08:25:51 PM »
Transferred last year from a T4 to a T1. ~20 interviews, 10 callbacks. Accepted offer with a V25. 90% of the other transfer students had great luck.

Ave Maria / Re: Fall 2007 1Ls
« on: September 28, 2007, 10:06:53 AM »
So this list means nothing to you about the school being national?

Graduates of Ave Maria School of Law have been especially successful in securing prestigious judicial clerkships. Graduates in the 2003 through 2006 classes have secured 28 federal clerkships and 34 clerkships overall. Judicial clerkships, which typically are one or two years in duration, are highly sought after by law school graduates as a result of the experiences that they provide.

Federal Appellate

Judge Samuel A. Alito, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit (1)
Judge Michael A. Chagares, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit (1)
Judge Raymond W. Gruender, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit (3)
Judge Daniel A. Manion, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit (2)
Judge David W. McKeague, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit (1)
Judge William H. Pryor, Jr., U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit (1)
Judge James L. Ryan, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit (3)
Judge Richard F. Suhrheinrich, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit (1)
Judge Joseph F. Weis, Jr., U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit (1)

Federal District

Judge Charles L. Brieant, U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York (1)
Judge Joseph J. Farnan, Jr., U.S. District Court for the District of Delaware (1)
Judge Paul V. Gadola, U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan (3)
Judge William C. Griesbach, U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin (1)
Chief Judge J. Leon Holmes, U.S. District Court for the District of Arkansas (1)
Judge John McCarthy Roll, U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona (1)
Judge Theresa Lazar Springmann, U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Indiana (1)
Judge Lawrence P. Zatkoff, U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan (2)
Chief Judge William J. Zloch, U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida (3)

Federal Magistrate

Judge Russell Vineyard, U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia (1)

Federal Bankruptcy

Judge Walter Shapero, U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of Michigan (1)

State Supreme Court

Justice G. Barry Anderson, Minnesota Supreme Court (1)
Justice Maura Corrigan, Michigan Supreme Court (1)
Justice Robert E. Davis, Kansas Supreme Court (1)
Justice Stephen J. Markman, Michigan Supreme Court (1)
Justice Donald C. Wintersheimer, Kentucky Supreme Court (1)
Justice Robert Young, Michigan Supreme Court (1)

State Appellate

Judge James R. Cavanaugh, Superior Court of Pennsylvania (1)

State Trial
Judge Jay A. Daugher, Jackson County Circuit Court (Missouri) (1)
Judge John A. Ward, Cook County Circuit Court (Chicago, Illinois) (1)
Judge Daryl F. Todd, Superior Court of New Jersey (1)

I know this is an old post, but sehrwunderbar, I'm wondering where you will be working? A buddy of mine transferred from Ave, and he and his friends (current 3Ls) have nothing but bad things to say about the school. Is 28 federal clerkships in 4 years good? 

Current Law Students / Re: Contracts
« on: September 04, 2007, 10:48:04 AM »
Contracts was the class that gave me the most problems, at least at first. We started with damages, and I thought I was a dead man. As the semester moved forward and with some help from E&E, I actually started to understand what the hell was going on. A small part of me, albeit a small part, actually started to enjoy the class. I ended up with a good grade. I think you'll be fine. Everyone struggles. Everyone's confused.

And like a prior poster said, things eventually start to come together. Good luck!

Current Law Students / Re: To Transfer Or Not To Transfer?
« on: June 16, 2007, 09:24:37 AM »
Congrats on doing so well your first year. I was in the same position as you. I did my first year at a t4, finished 2nd in my class and transfered to a t1. I struggled a bit with the decision considering I lost law review, moot court and a scholarship.

I am happy I transferred. All of the big shot "local" firms that I had dreamed of working for during my first year called me back for interviews, even though I was no longer in the same state as those firms. I turned down all of their call-backs for a job at a vault top 20, where I am summering now. Even though I was top of my class at the t4, I would not have had the chance to interview at this firm. Losing law review didn't seem to make much of a difference to employers, and now I will have a great school on my resume rather than one that provokes the question, "Oh, they have a law school?"

Again, congratulations. Either way, you're in a great position.

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