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Job Search / Re: 1L firm jobs
« on: November 03, 2007, 03:59:54 PM »
The firm I summered at (V25) took 3 1Ls out of 16 total. One from Chicago, one from Northwestern and one from Michigan. They all got offers. Don't firms do an OCI for 1Ls shortly after Christmas? 

The first semester of my first year of law school was one of the worst times of my life. I hated the classes, the material, everything. I was confused and stressed out beyond belief. I seriously thought about dropping out. I ended up sticking with it, and when I did well on exams at the end of the semester, my confidence rose. Things started to click for me and the work started to be not so unbearable.

I'm a 3L now, and I'm very glad I didn't drop out. I go to a good school, have good grades and have a good job lined up after graduation. My advice would be to stick with it for a little while longer. I think the feelings you're feeling are typical.

Good luck!

Current Law Students / Re: LSAT necessarily indicative of 1L performance?
« on: October 08, 2007, 10:38:41 AM »
LSAT 148--finised 1L 2nd in my class.

Job Search / Re: Transfer Students in OCI
« on: September 30, 2007, 07:25:51 PM »
Transferred last year from a T4 to a T1. ~20 interviews, 10 callbacks. Accepted offer with a V25. 90% of the other transfer students had great luck.

Current Law Students / Re: Contracts
« on: September 04, 2007, 09:48:04 AM »
Contracts was the class that gave me the most problems, at least at first. We started with damages, and I thought I was a dead man. As the semester moved forward and with some help from E&E, I actually started to understand what the hell was going on. A small part of me, albeit a small part, actually started to enjoy the class. I ended up with a good grade. I think you'll be fine. Everyone struggles. Everyone's confused.

And like a prior poster said, things eventually start to come together. Good luck!

Current Law Students / Re: To Transfer Or Not To Transfer?
« on: June 16, 2007, 08:24:37 AM »
Congrats on doing so well your first year. I was in the same position as you. I did my first year at a t4, finished 2nd in my class and transfered to a t1. I struggled a bit with the decision considering I lost law review, moot court and a scholarship.

I am happy I transferred. All of the big shot "local" firms that I had dreamed of working for during my first year called me back for interviews, even though I was no longer in the same state as those firms. I turned down all of their call-backs for a job at a vault top 20, where I am summering now. Even though I was top of my class at the t4, I would not have had the chance to interview at this firm. Losing law review didn't seem to make much of a difference to employers, and now I will have a great school on my resume rather than one that provokes the question, "Oh, they have a law school?"

Again, congratulations. Either way, you're in a great position.

Job Search / Re: So, how did the job search go 1L's?
« on: May 18, 2007, 07:09:10 PM »
Right, I'm agreeing.

Job Search / Re: So, how did the job search go 1L's?
« on: May 17, 2007, 07:32:41 PM »
i might be able to but i need the money or the financial aid. I dont think that employers will care if i had a job or summer school. It just seems like summer school would probably be a waste of money since im not planning on graduating early. at the same time im getting a little to old to do the bs summer job thing

I've just heard firms like seeing you did something law related the summer before 2L OCI.

I worked for a family business my 1L summer (completely non-law related) and this summer (2L) I'm working BigLaw.

actually i think by most measures UW is the better university (and here i talk across the spectrum of disciplines from law to medicine to business to applied mathematics).  when speaking of the law school specifically...what's a couple of points between friends (31 v. 28)?  besides ND is on the drops amigo, you cannot deny a 6 point fall hurts!  and yet you cannot get yourself to say "ND is not a national school" eventhough you consider every other program not in the T14 a "regional school"....oh except ND.  i hope people like you never come to Wisconsin, so if you want to stay in Chi-town and be  miserable that sounds fantastic...all the cold minus the skiing.  we'll make fun of you when you load the family up on your rusted out honda civic (loans)covered in lame ND alumni stickers (small genitals) and make the trek up north to enjoy the scenery (FIB) only to crawl back to miserable Illinois when the weekend ends (shoot yourself now).  as for passing the bar in other states, WI graduates get grandfathered into adjoining state's bars should they want to leave WI (and most do not).

Wow, this is actually starting to get kind of fun! I hope I run into opposing counsel like you when I start practicing. I'll make partner in no time!

First, why are you bringing up other disciplines? Who cares what goes on "across the spectrum." Aren't we talking about law school?

Second, yes the 6 point fall is not a wonderful thing for ND. Are you under the impression that I'm happy about this? My point is that ND is a school with a great national reputation, a terrific loyal alumni base, and with graduates at top law firms over the county. To make my argument easier, I compared ND to Wisonsin in the national market.

Third, when did I say that every school outside of the top 14 is a regional school except for ND? I believe I simply stated that Wisconsin is  not a national school. Read before you respond "amigo." To explain why I won't say "ND is a regional school," please reread the above posts.

Lastly, you keep talking about all of the debt that ND students have. Yes, I will have debt. My loan payments will be about $1,200 a month. This is under $15,000 a year. The firm I will be working at just matched the local market at $145,000 a year. If I drive a rusted honda civic, it will be because I want to, not because I have to. Do you understand? What's up with you bringing up this moot point anyway? Are you on a nonacademic scholarship or something? Well, good for you. Consider yourself lucky.

Oh yeah, and everyone I know who lives in Chicago absolutely loves it!

P.S. Your sentence structures are horrendous. You should take a basic composition class before research and writing.

Riiight...because sooo many people want to live in Wisconsin... Good try. Bottom line, you can't compare ND to Wisconsin. I think that's already been established.

You are now using the weather to back what you call your "argument?" Yeah, great that you've convinced yourself that Wisconsin is a great place to live. I guess that's understandable though, as you will surely be stuck there when you graduate.

As for me and my colleagues, yes we are stuck in Indiana for the time being, which I admit sucks in the winter, but nobody stays in Indiana! So again, good try. No bar exam? Yeah, I bet the market in Wisconsin is just begging for lawyers... Also, you do realize that if you want to leave Wisconsin you will have to take the bar in another state, right? 

I think you should bow out before you start using the quality of cheeses to back your stellar "arguments."

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