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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Be diverse, don't pray
« on: April 07, 2005, 09:46:42 PM »
Diversity and attempts to diversify are stupid.

95% of these diverse students along with 95% of the others (whoever they are) don't care about learning about other subcultures.

Have you ever noticed how minorities seek each other out.  White people do it when they are the minority too.  I am not saying that this is a good thing, but it is the truth.  Just ignore diversity and bring in deserving students and let them do whatever the hell they want to do.

One of the most important aspects of my undergraduate experience was the diversity of people I got to know. I met citizens of difference countries and Americans from all over the country, each with a different experience. I now have friends who live all over the world who are white, black, indian, asian, puerto rican, spanish, swiss, japanese, straight, gay, rich, poor, musicians, teachers, humanitarians, CEOs, and yes I even met a conservative. That was a very valuable part of my undergraduate education, and I am glad that the admissions and financial aid people at my college took the time to get such a broad spectrum of people. Maybe my undergraduate experience was unique, though.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Be diverse, don't pray
« on: April 07, 2005, 06:27:09 PM »
LOL: looks like that opinion journal piece got PR to change their headings to

Apples | Oranges

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Employer animosity about going to LS...
« on: April 07, 2005, 08:53:53 AM »
I've had the exact opposite reaction. Since I told my boss I was thinking about going to law school, about nine months ago, I've seen my salaray increase by $20k. He even wrote me a good LOR. It's nice to be wanted by someone, even if BU and Boalt get nauseous when they look at my GPA and LSAT. Damn, I just don't want to give up that extra money so soon. (Sigh)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USD or USF
« on: April 06, 2005, 03:02:05 PM »
First off, I'm sure the same numbers from USF and USD both take Bar prep classes. I don't know of any grads that do not.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I would bet that the school with the lower pass rate probably has a lower percentage of students taking a prep course. How many grads do you know that have failed the bar? The Bar isn't a curved test. 100% of the people taking it could pass if they tried hard enough. I don't think it is accurate to think that because more people fail the bar at USF, you would be more likely to fall just by attending that school. Maybe I am misinerpreting your statement.

I do agree that a higher pass rate does help out a school's reputation, but its boost to their perceived reputation is just a drop in the bucket of all the inputs that professionals use to gauge their perceptions of a law school. More likely to help your school's reputation is that the local hiring attorney went to school there, or they have hired a lot of grads from that school and have had good experience with them. This is why lower ranked schools tend to have MUCH better reputations in their regional market.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USD or USF
« on: April 06, 2005, 02:36:43 PM »
With regard to bar passage rates, I think we have a little bit of a causal ambiguity. That is, does a school have a low bar passage rate because they don't teach what you need to pass the bar, or do they have a low bar passage rate because they admit students who are more likely to slack on the test?

I think it's the latter. From what I've heard, if you go to a good school, they barely teach to the bar, and are more theoretical in their instruction. Most lawyers I've spoken to will also tell you that you need to take a Bar Prep course, and you will learn more black letter law in that 6 week course than in all of law school. So if you are confident that you can study for and pass the bar, it shouldn't make a difference where you go to school. They take the exact same exam whether they go to USF or USD. Stop looking at such a worthless statistic! I would focus more on job prospect factors, like region, median salaries, and strengths in particular practice areas.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USD or USF
« on: April 06, 2005, 02:06:12 PM »
He said that is their big concern, they are really trying to get people to branch out and spread USD's reputation.

Theo Epstein went to USD. You would think that would be all the rep they need.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: ~~~The MLB thread~~~
« on: April 06, 2005, 01:40:50 PM »
all i know is that he came from arizona with the BK nickname. i agree it's redundant, but i think that saying BH Kim would be too hard. usually people just called him BK, (kinda like RJ without all the talent) which makes more sense.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: ~~~The MLB thread~~~
« on: April 06, 2005, 01:32:24 PM »
do we get to chant "Who's Your Daddy" to Mo when he pitches at Fenway?

God, he has just become awful against the Sox. It's like BK Kim against the Yankees.

I have been accepted to a second tier school (Syracuse) and I really liked it.  I have also been accepted to a fourth tier school (Suffolk) and I loved Boston when I visited.  Syracuse is giving me five more grand to attend which I know is not a big difference.  Would going to Suffolk be a bad decision because it is ranked two tiers lower and have given me less money?  Since both are out of the first tier do I go for great location or higher rank?  Please help me, deposits are due very soon.  Thank you for all replies.

First of all Syracuse is barely T2 (95th) and they were T3 just last month. If you'd rather be in Boston, Suffolk will deliver the jobs, Syracuse won't. Boston's cool. I've been living here for nearly ten years. Still, you should check out both schools to get a feel for their vibe, competitiveness, and policies (law review, recruiting, ranking, etc.) I got a good feeling from the two visits I made to Suffolk. I also know two recent grads who loved it. They both spoke very highly and fondly of their experience. Plus, the facilities are all less than 10 years old and really nice.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: How Old is Everyone?
« on: April 05, 2005, 01:55:35 PM »
Only the people from the south. I have found that people who get married early are usualy from the south, stupid (didn't go to college), poor, or are in the military.

Actually a friend of mine is a mormon from Utah who's married with kids at 24, hes clerking for a judge at the moment.

Really, I think we have the makings of a thesis in Computational Anthropology.

We have stumbled upon a surprisingly predictive model of human coupling mechanisms and the influential factors that contribute to the ritual of marriage. Simply stated, we have the predictive model:

   Pm = L + (0.2S + 0.3U + 0.3P + 0.2M)

where Pm is the probability, expressed as a percentage, of being married under the age of 22, and S, U, P, M, and L are binary indicators of the following attributes which, when true, equal one and, when false, zero.

   S is Southern
   U is Uneducated
   P is Poor
   M is Milirary
   L is Latter Day Saints

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