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What do you guys think my chances are at Texas and Vanderbilt? I've been thinking more and more about these schools because I would be OK with being regulated to their regions and they offer good prospects in these regions---but I would go in and at least try to get grades good enough to transfer to HYS. Obviously there are no guarantees but that might be my best shot. I've heard rumors about being a black male giving one a boost for transfer admissions--what do you guys think?

Relegated, not "regulated," man. Not to be a jackass, but some people instinctively look for this kind of thing and, needless to say, it doesn't look good.

Anyway, now that I've applied to CLS with my pitiful 3.09/167, I suppose I'll just have to play the waiting game. I know you guys think I've got a shot, but is it worth getting my hopes? This is really a dumb question, but if you actually had to quantify my shot as a black male first-generation college grad, would you say over or under 50%?

Also, since I'm signed up to retake the LSAT in December, is it inevitable that I'll be deferred pending my new score? Part of my just wants a higher score for its own sake given that I've underperformed so badly. However, since LSAC stats suggest that I'm already well within the top 1% of black male lsat scores (feel free to correct me here), it seems clear that even a 178 wouldn't make much of a difference. 

Any additional thoughts? I totally understand if you're sick my questions btw. Thanks all!

Relax.

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What do you guys think my chances are at Texas and Vanderbilt? I've been thinking more and more about these schools because I would be OK with being regulated to their regions and they offer good prospects in these regions---but I would go in and at least try to get grades good enough to transfer to HYS. Obviously there are no guarantees but that might be my best shot. I've heard rumors about being a black male giving one a boost for transfer admissions--what do you guys think?

You should get in...they're ranked below the schools we recommended for you.

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target the middle t14

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In at CCN.  Probably in at H.  Possibility at Stanford.  Little chance, but not impossible, at Yale.

Full ride probably at none of those.  You need to look at the bottom t14 for that.

What kind of #'s would an AA male need to have a strong shot at a full ride at schools like Gtown, Cornell, Duke, Nwestern, other T14s, etc?  Thanks

Mid-160s?  I think you'll get money from them.  YHSCCN is a different story...you need a 168+ to be inconsideration for a full ride at CCN (even then it's not guaranteed).  Y and H don't give merit money.

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Black Law Students / Re: Where should I apply?
« on: October 27, 2009, 08:49:54 PM »
There is a thread for this.  But in short, target the middle t14 and apply to the rest.

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Hi, I'm an old head. I've been here since 2005. Back then, BLSD was lively and engaging. In fact, I met a lot of my classmates on this website before I even started law school. Perhaps one day it'll pick back up, but until then, I guess it is just us. :)

@ bolded: doubtful, but perhaps.

Another old head.  I just looked at my profile, and evidently I joined in 2004...lurked before that...read the Princeton Review (circa 2002...yeah, I'm that old...you people probably have no idea what I'm talking about) and XO boards before that.  Went to Yale, did a COA clerkship, now working in BIGLAW.

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Hi all, I'm applying within the next two weeks and still don't have a good list of schools to apply to. I have very limited funds and can only afford about 9 or 10 schools.
Do I have any chance at a t14 school? Where should I apply?

I'm a black male
2.95 from Howard U (relatively strong upward trend)
163 sept lsat
3.71 grad gpa
decent softs
2 yrs work experience
Very difficult personal background (subject of my personal statement)

Thanks


Good to see fellow Bison applying to law school.

I'd apply widely. Pick one of two schools in the top 14 where your personal statement might have impact. I suggest GULC and University of Michigan (Berkeley might also be worth an app). These are reaches, but hey, you never know.

Then I would think about where I wanted to be long term. If you want to be in DC, for example, throw an application to American and GWU.

That's 4 applications.

So the next 6 applications you send should be sent wide. I suggest: Emory, University of Georgia, University of North Carolina, Howard University, and Wake Forest.

My advice: If you don't get into a top 14, in this economy, go to Howard and call it a day.

Yeah I agree with this, except I'd probably do 4 t14 schools, American, GW, HUSL, and a couple of the others from your list.

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1.  Thanks.  Lol you're right about the indexing (in fact, Sands tried it on the first page).  But it's a nice little pre/post-work distraction for me.

2. I think you stand a chance as is.  Truthfully, I don't think a higher LSAT is going to help much.

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I think you have a decent shot at CCN.  Might as well throw an app to H too.

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Hi Guys! New to the boards:

- AA female
-165 LSAT/3.16 GPA--Top 20 UG
-Graduated in 2007 with biochem/cell biology degree....went on to work for a financial tech firm, transferred me to London, been working in London for almost two years, now time to go to law school. 
-founded minority orgs on UG campus, and highly involved in community service, tutoring inner city, basketball/mentor volunteer, etc--in England....i guess pretty typical stuff 

I have my sights set on UPENN, CORNELL, DUKE, COLUMBIA, NYU, NORTHWESTERN, and want to throw HARVARD in for fun, with my school choices i realize a higher score is nearly a requirement  :-\

What do you "gurus" make of my chances? 




I think you have a shot at all of those.  Harvard might be a stretch.

thanks...what do you think about retaking in December, and sending all apps in then (considering everything will be complete by then) OR do you think I should just send in by MID-November.  In other words i am choosing between:

retaking, getting a 170+ and applying Mid-Dec VS. applying Mid-November with the 165.


Statistically, you probably won't do any better on a retake.  But people always feel like they will, and occasionally a few do.  You should get into the mid-t14 regardless of when you apply; the only question is the upper end.  I say go ahead and apply now and see where you get in, then retake if you're set on doing so, and if your score improves, send in the updated score/apply again next year.

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