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I wouldn't call what I'm doing Harvard trolling, since I don't have any association with the school and I'm just trying to be objective.

Umhmmm.  This is trolling:

Are you seriously putting SLS before HLS?  I can see people putting YLS ahead of HLS, but come on.....HLS is the mother of all law schools.


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I also don't really buy all the YLS trolling which does seem to be very much tied to its "#1" ranking in US News every year (don't even get me started on the law school ranking methodology).

No, there are many objective reasons why YLS is actually better.  Again, 3-5 years ago, I would have been happy to name them.  But now I leave that to other people if they are so inclined.




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But the mystique isn't why people attend...they attend b/c it's #1.  Same for Harvard.  It's all about prestige.

I went to Yale...which is partially why I never bought all of the Harvard trolling :P

There's that. But there's also the fact that HLS has a pretty good breadth of programs so it's likely that there is at least one person doing work that someone would want to do. I want to do a fairly niche area of law and there has been a lot of support on campus for that (and seemingly a lot of alumni in that field, so good connections). Good support for those who want to do public interest too (well, at least for my class. Incoming classes will have a bit of a different system).

Not saying you're wrong about prestige though. It doesn't hurt when I get to tell potential employers where I go to school. They become more interested, at the very least :)

Yes, of course there are other reasons to attend any school.  GULC also has a wide breadth of programs and probably would've given you merit money to boot. But yet you ended up at Harvard...why? :)  Nevertheless, I see your point in that that's a reason one might choose Harvard over, say, Stanford.

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More likely than not that you will get in.

this seems pretty optimistic but i certainly hope you're right! i guess i'll start scouring this thread for tips on the phone interviews they usually do.

Yeah they didn't have those when I applied.  Things were better back then...you just got the big box with the binder and knew you were in.

that would have been nice.

so is there a story for why this thread (and the BLSD as a whole) just died all of a sudden. it seems like a group of students who all happened to be applying at the same time came and then...left. i wonder if most people have found jobs and stuff given how bad things have been.

Yeah the board was at its apex my 1L year in 2005-06.  Lots of people from my class year (and school) were around, plus lots of people applying, getting into lots of t14 schools.  Good discussions, good times.  But the class of 2009 largely went away after school started.  Then the old heads started dropping off one by one as we each got busier.  TLS came along, and most of the applicant discussion went over there.  The politics thread was active until Obama was elected.  After that, it died as well.  So now there's just me taking a peek before work and bed, answering t14 chances questions as they pop up.  Sometimes I'll pop over to XO or TLS if I'm bored.  But mostly I find my entertainment elsewhere.

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Lol 5 years ago, I would've been right with you in this debate.  "What if Yale doubled its size?  Then we might just have YS!"  But yeah...not so much anymore.

in the interest of discussion, if yale were to double its size, the supposed mystique of its admissions process would evaporate.  :D

in 5 years, have you simply cast off the potential advantage of size?  no pun intended.

and what school do/did you attend?

But the mystique isn't why people attend...they attend b/c it's #1.  Same for Harvard.  It's all about prestige.

I went to Yale...which is partially why I never bought all of the Harvard trolling :P

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More likely than not that you will get in.

this seems pretty optimistic but i certainly hope you're right! i guess i'll start scouring this thread for tips on the phone interviews they usually do.

Yeah they didn't have those when I applied.  Things were better back then...you just got the big box with the binder and knew you were in.

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Lol 5 years ago, I would've been right with you in this debate.  "What if Yale doubled its size?  Then we might just have YS!"  But yeah...not so much anymore.

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You should be a URM, and I think you have a good shot at all of those.  H down is pretty much guaranteed.  Nice chances at Y and S if your essays are good.

"H down"

Are you seriously putting SLS before HLS?  I can see people putting YLS ahead of HLS, but come on.....HLS is the mother of all law schools.

Harvard is a degree mill.  A prestigious degree mill, but a degree mill nonetheless.

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More likely than not that you will get in.

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Hi, new to this thread but been reading through it today, really good stuff

This question is directed to A. and Kirk Lazarus:

Do you guys have insight regarding urm admissions?  Not just "chances", but how these law schools actually go about deliberating on black applicants.  I'm applying this cycle and it seems like our decisions come a little delayed relative to the rest of the pool.  Do these schools have special committees or something?  Does the BLSA get involved?  Just curious, thanks!

This is going to depend on the school and applicant.  Some schools do involve BLSA; but I'd imagine most don't.  Most schools probably give admissions officers greater latitude to admit minority applicants.  A delay can be explained by a number of factors.  I personally heard back quite quickly (my cycle was over before Christmas).  But it would be logical for admissions officers to delay making decisions on borderline URMs until after they have a better idea of how the applicant pool looks.  If it doesn't look any better, admit the borderline URM.  If better candidates come in, reject the borderline URM.

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This probably happens with such infrequency that it's impossible for anyone here to say for certain.  Apply if you're in the top quarter probably.

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