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« on: January 10, 2005, 02:27:58 PM »
Alci, you are a perfect person to ask. You are black with 170 on the LSAT's and acceptances in all the univ. you applied to.
Do you think that the LSAT is a bad predictor of one's ability to succeed in law school? And do you think that the LSAT is a flawed exam when it comes to evaluating minorities??
I got your point; I just wanted to reply to your assertion that my numbers cannot be correct.
The LSAT was designed to test certain abilities that law schools deemed necessary for success as a lawyer. Laywers will have to read well and quickly. Lawyers will have to be able to evaluate and dissect logical arguments. And although I am not a big fan of the games section (it's where I missed 8 of my 11 questions), lawyers will need to be able to put various things together to find solutions to problems. So that's the purpose of the LSAT.
Now, it might not be a perfect predictor of success in law school because while one might have the innate ability to perform these tasks, it is another thing altogether to have the will and motivation to live up to one's potential. In short, success in law school is, in part, determined by hard work. That is why a person who didn't do as well on the LSAT as another person might still do better in law school.
That said, it is in the law schools' best interest to choose students who are most likely to be successful. The LSAT is a way to tell who is more able
to be successful. The GPA is a good way to tell which people are more likely to do the work. This is my opinion, anyway.
And I hate AA debates, so I'm not going to get into one. I will say, however, that basically any exam is going to be biased against someone. Yes, some people might not do well on the LSAT because they come from disadvantaged backgrounds. I doubt people in the ghetto have time to do logic games. I will also say, however, that they are not likely to overcome these disadvantages in law school. However, I think the best judge of who is or who is not capable of studying at a law school is the law school itself. Therefore, I don't second guess their judgments.
« on: January 10, 2005, 01:53:21 PM »
About the USC Yale argument. Your numbers can't be correct because a huge number of graduates from Yale go into politics, a public sector. What I was trying to say is that people at Yale are not chasing high salaries while people at USC are. That's why Yale and Harvard graduates become presidents and USC graduates do not.
My numbers are correct. Check U.S. News and the schools' websites. Where are your numbers from? It seems like you pulled them from your ass. I think you have a misinformed view of HYS. Yes, a lot of people from those schools do public interest, clerkships, etc. (especially at Yale), but don't think that a majority (in H's case), or a plurality (in Y's case) don't go chasing after biglaw money. Even those that do clerkships are likely to go to big firms afterwards.
« on: January 10, 2005, 09:29:16 AM »
Being rich is not really a measure of success in the law profession. Thats why A students become professors or senators and presidents. This is one of the reasons why Yale's median salary is lower than that of USC for example. I do not disagree with NEkko on his general point though.
USC's midrange salary is $90k -$125k. Yale's is $125k -$125k. I don't know where you're getting your information.
« on: January 09, 2005, 03:03:19 PM »
Try as I might, I CANNOT get my head around this rolling notification thing. How can you possibly have rolling notification without rolling admissions?
The theory is that adcoms will hold applications for mid-level applicants, no matter the date of receipt, until numerous other mid-level applications come in.
No surprise, and it does make sense. So, sure-fire admits and rejects are decided thru rolling admission (based on when the app comes in), but the 50% in the middle are part of a rolling notification (based on when many apps with similar qualifications come in) instead of a rolling admission. HTH
Not exactly how I understand it. You are correct in that autoadmits pretty much go through a rolling admission cycle. However, schools such as Yale and Chicago can claim that they do not utilize rolling admissions because, for the vast majority of applicants, decisions are not made until all of the applications have been received (http://yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=1547
). The rolling notification part means that people who have been admitted are notified in batches. For instance, my Yale decision letter was dated 12/10; however, I was not notified until 12/20, along with a number of other people.
« on: January 09, 2005, 02:56:27 PM »
you are probably a special case. Harvard also called you when they usually just sent a box
Lol, Harvard didn't call.
« on: January 09, 2005, 02:55:29 PM »
Anyone know about the Yale gym (that is, hoping I have the opportunity to worry about their fitness facilities... )
They advertise it to be one of the largest and most comprehensive in the world. Haven't had a chance to see first hand, though.
« on: January 09, 2005, 11:38:34 AM »
didn't some people eventually get stanford phone calls though?
I got one, but I missed it
. However, it was definitely on my caller ID.
« on: January 08, 2005, 03:45:40 PM »
« on: January 08, 2005, 03:34:09 PM »
what was your UG, alcibiades?
Well, Pookie, I don't want to out myself just yet
. Let's just say top 20 in the South.
« on: January 08, 2005, 03:12:20 PM »
Alcibiades, we sound like the same person with similar goals, except you have the HYS acceptances and I have nothing (ha ha.) Maybe I just wish we were similar
Whereabout in the South are you from? I'm from South Carolina. Living in a cold climate for school is not all it's cracked up to be! I'm in grad school in Ireland, and the longer I stay here the better schools like Stanford and Duke are sounding to me...
Of course, first I need to be accepted somewhere. So mad that I didn't apply earlier.
While it's definitely nice to have the acceptances already, I'm sure yours are coming
. I'm originally from Alabama (I would add a disclaimer, but since you're from SC, I guess I don't need to