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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Loyola - Los Angeles
« on: March 16, 2005, 11:15:11 AM »
Thanks for the description of LLS!  I'm still trying to figure out a time to make it up there...I also can't take too many days off work.  I'm visiting USD in a couple of weeks, not on tour but through a friend of a friend who goes there and is allowing me to sit in on classes with her...I'll post about it once I go  :)

I did check out Pepperdine this weekend...gorgeous campus, but I don't really see myself going there...

Yeah, some people who came to the tour had already gone to USD and said they would only let them sit in on seminar type classes, not real 1L courses so I think your plan is better. One guy in my group said he was considering USD and Loyola. He visited Pepperdine and he didn't need to consider it anymore, lol. I think he didn't like the feel of the people there but I think that's subjective. Campus is GORGEOUS and location kind of is middle of nowhere, but beautiful beach area.

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Loyola - Los Angeles
« on: March 16, 2005, 11:13:08 AM »
thanks so much for writing that all out.  it really helps get a sense of the school.  did i read on another thread that you would be going to cardozo in april? if so, ill be there for that and would love to hear how the two compare.  the sense of community is super important for me and those are the two schools i will most likely be deciding on. thanks.
 did they say anything about scholarships?

I forgot to ask about scholarships (stupid me). Yes I'll be at Cardozo. I'll see you there!

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Loyola LA Money Info
« on: March 16, 2005, 11:06:18 AM »
3.0, 167

If they give me something similar, I'd go there in a heartbeat.

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Loyola - Los Angeles
« on: March 16, 2005, 10:24:48 AM »
Starresky- Thanks for the awesome description. That was really helpful.  Id love to hear your thoughts on USD after you visit.

I'll definitely post it. I just might not get down there for another month, unfortunately. I can't ask for time off work too frequently :)

Love,
Q

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Loyola - Los Angeles
« on: March 16, 2005, 09:58:00 AM »
Well, I am back from my student tour and I can not praise the faculty/students enough :) I had the best time. The students were surprisingly friendly, and I don't mean just to me, but to each other. They were very supportive of each other's employment efforts and really didn't give off the competitive feel. I mean, the students encouraged us to speak up in class and stuff like that to get on the good side of the professors, but not to one up each other or anything like that.

The campus is a lot cheerier and nicer when there are people on campus, so I really started to forget the neighborhood outside once I got onto the campus. The campus is small so even though Loyola is the biggest law school (in terms of student numbers) in California, it didn't feel like it at all. They have sections scheduled pretty well so that the parking doesn't look horrendous like it was in college (at least my college).

The assistant dean was extremely friendly, funny and blunt about the school. Gave us a lot of stats and anecdotal information about Loyola. Really played up the alumni base and the "teaching" focus of the school. They really emphasize a socratic method that doesn't try to degrade the student, but rather focus on the student's learning.

This was evidenced in the Contracts class I sat in on where the professor pretty much asked for the facts (students knew they would be called in ahead of time) and then asked for opinions. The professor didn't berate any of the students if their answers were missing essential information that they should have gotten from the reading. He just tried to guide the student to the answer, which I liked.

Another thing they emphasized was the broad spectrum of courses available since the school was so big. They said Loyola was really strong in Entertainment, IP and International Law. They also said in general the hot tickets are IP and Bankruptcy Law and white-collar crime law. They also have a lot of courses on Labor Law.

The Dean of Career Services was very honest and open about the realities of employment after graduation. He said even though there are alumni all around the U.S. (there is one alumni at least in every state), that if you want to go to work in, say, Oregon, you should go to U of Oregon because firms tend to feed on regional schools and that it'd be easier to get a job after graduation (something most of us already know). I liked his honesty and sincere effort to help out each individual student there instead of trying to persuade them to choose Loyola above all others.

The library doesn't look that special but there are lots of lounge areas and great study rooms that have huge windows, so lots of sunlight. They have a small cafeteria but most students just bring their lunch and put it in the refrigerators available. There are also lockers available (bring your own lock).

I asked the student host about living and even the deans commute from pretty big distances. People either commute from the freeways (about a 45 minute drive from West L.A.) or by train (there's a shuttle from the metro station to the school) from as far away as San Diego and Oxnard. I doubt I'd live near the area because as people have said, the surrounding neighborhood doesn't look very clean or safe (although there is a Mickey D's in walking distance because I saw two of them as I went to the 101 and saw several people walking around the streets of Loyola's block with McDonald's bags in hand).

Someone on the tour asked about the sense of community since it was a commuter school, but there are a ton of organizations and one student said that he carpool-ed with people who lived far away and made friends that way. They also said people usually met in the library so you can make contacts there too. We also talked to a bunch of students who were deciding between Loyola and USD and most of them chose Loyola because of the job prospects. They said that USD doesn't really help for finding jobs outside of San Diego so they didn't want to limit their options (I'll see for myself when I visit USD).

I came away from the experience with a really positive impression of the school. Of course, this is the first school I've visited so we'll see about those later on. I just really liked the chill and friendly community there which suits me just fine. I don't crave the competitive, cutthroat experience of law school, I just want an education.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Loyola LA Money Info
« on: March 15, 2005, 11:24:04 PM »
Wow, that is AWESOME news! After visiting today, I think Loyola is where I am headed. The people (students and faculty) there were super-friendly and I even found Contracts interesting :)

Love,
Q

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: UCLA says no way Jose!
« on: March 14, 2005, 09:40:31 PM »
Let's make that three of us :-) To those who have received rejection letters, where are you located?

I'm from Orange County.


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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: UCLA says no way Jose!
« on: March 14, 2005, 05:49:02 PM »
Haha, my mom prefaced the call about my rejection with, "Your dad and I were discussing this and we really don't want you going to such a tough school. We'd rather you relax in San Diego or somewhere lower ranked instead of competing with all these students that are much smarter and more competitive than you are . . ." Hehe I love them :) I am not surprised at all and only applied to appease my curiosity.

Love,
Q

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Fordham Interim "Pending" List
« on: March 14, 2005, 03:42:56 PM »
Was pended.  Just got dinged.  No, I'm not surprised - the deferral was a triumph for someone with my numbers.

Mine is on its way. Wish they would just hurry up!

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Fordham Interim "Pending" List
« on: March 14, 2005, 01:31:59 PM »
I just went from pending to admitted 5 mins ago....So good luck to you all!! Hope you hear good news soon

That is awesome! Time to change your signature ;) Are you considering Fordham? I hope to hear news soon!

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