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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC'08
« on: April 27, 2005, 11:02:40 PM »
good move.

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Acceptances / Re: GOD IS SO GOOD!!! OFF NOTRE DAME WAITLIST!!!!
« on: April 27, 2005, 05:32:00 PM »
congratulations!

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Wait List / Re: "Reserve" at Cornell
« on: April 27, 2005, 12:40:27 PM »
good for you laestrella! I on the other hand am a rankings whore through and through, and would go to Georgetown or Cornell in an instant if they looked my way. But, in the end, here's to us both becoming good lawyers, or at least good people with law degree's one day.

lol...I second that motion. 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC'08
« on: April 27, 2005, 11:12:36 AM »
DeltaTauKyle and I are old discussion thread pals by now on the topic of BC, but I'll jump on to the list. I'm heading to BC as well.

I promise to be less of a jackass now that I've decided

no problem DeltaTauKyle...online personalities can come off wrong at times.

As for the ranking question, I believe it is true that BC does not literally rank the class.  However, they provide "grade distribution charts" to potential employers so they have a reference as to where a certain GPA places a student in the class.  I like this personally.  While you are still going to get credit for being in a certain range, there is no need to cut the throat of someone next to you simply to move up in the class one spot. 


For the rooming situation...when are you guys planning on moving into the Boston area?

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Acceptances / Re: In off of Georgetown Preferred WL!
« on: April 27, 2005, 12:08:06 AM »
congrats!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC vs. Wait lists
« on: April 26, 2005, 09:48:44 PM »
It appears as though I have the profile handout that doesn't give the percent reporting. What seemed incredibly interesting this afternoon in a caffeine high just doesn't seem that invigorating anymore.  Perhaps my interest will perk once again tomorrow.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC'08
« on: April 26, 2005, 09:46:17 PM »
DeltaTauKyle and I are old discussion thread pals by now on the topic of BC, but I'll jump on to the list. I'm heading to BC as well.

I will point out that on the graduate portion of this site, there is a specific Boston College area.  With that said, its much easier to have everything in one sub-section, so i'm all for this one.

I too know the Newton area fairly well.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC vs. Wait lists
« on: April 26, 2005, 05:53:50 PM »
If you people spend half as much time studying and applying to jobs as you do calculating the percent chance of landing a job and the subsequent salary and location of the job, I think you will be all set :D.


haha Karita, you are so right. I think I'm in on nubova's goal for the fall.

As for the reporting stats, now that you all mention it, I think I have that packet back on my desk.  I'll look to see if it is there and give the exact number.

and goodluck Baff with whatever you choose.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC vs. Wait lists
« on: April 26, 2005, 03:49:05 PM »
good point 53-11, I'll have to look into that when I get my info back in front of me. I suppose the correct or better assumption would be "50% of those reporting salary information".  Do you have any information about what their percent reporting is or has historically been?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC vs. Wait lists
« on: April 26, 2005, 01:13:54 PM »
haha no problem nubova, this is really interesting to me as well...even if slightly off topic.

I really like miller's logic for the reasoning behind BU placing in NYC more than BC. It makes sense to me.

Another issue, since we are discussing these schools, is the private sector salary range.  While I have heard from many people that you have to finish at the very least in the top half of your class at either school to place well, at least at BC, with 67% of grads going into private firms, the midrange salary is 95k-125k. Now, to me this seems perfectly reasonable that 75% of those going into private practice make 95k or more (which for me signifies BigLaw or at least wannabes). Where is the catch?

Now, somewhat of a more mystifying statistic is BU's range.  Again 67% go into private firm work, but the midrange is 50k-125k.  That is a huge drop, but I am guessing a lot of schools have there midrange magically just miss all the low earners.

So, I guess my question would be do you think that the logic holds up for being in the top of your class to get these jobs? Looking at the data, the only way I see that working out is if:

1) There is indeed a huge drop off in the bottom 25% of those in private firms. I think BU's date supports this idea, although normally its masked.

2) Discounting for judicial clerkships (BC 15%), everyone else is at the bottom of the class and CANNOT (thats important) get a high paying legal job. They apply and are simply not hired. 

With that said, it would seem reasonable that 75% of the 67% get BigLaw jobs, which coincidentally equals about 50% of the class as a whole. Assuming those taking judicial clerkships would have had the ability to get a high paying firm job, add another 15% to the tally.  That leaves 65% of the class with a lot of options. Of course this is really general and pretty much the product of my procrastinating "real" work...It would seem that at BC at least, one must avoid being in the bottom 1/3 of the class.

Ok, now to bring this back to main topic.  How does this differ from a T14 school? Granted HYS will go all the way through their class, but what about the others? Is it different in that you cannot assume such a huge drop off in the bottom 25% of the private firm range? And/Or are all the non-private firm jobs self-selected and these grads could have had a firm job if they wanted? Can you finish say in the bottom 1/4 of the class and still finish ahead of a BC type school?




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