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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Deferred at Fordham
« on: March 24, 2006, 08:37:17 AM »
Yeah, there's a lot of us in this boat.  Honestly, I don't know what kind of bug Fordham has up their butt this year.  Guess this must have been a VERY competitive applicant pool. 

I'm assuming that no one who was pended at Fordham has heard anything yet?  Wonder how long we'll have to wait?  I did send back my letter asking to stay in the pool, but at this point I think that I would go to Cardozo over Fordham anyway.  Cardozo is offerring big money and has really impressed me.  I don't think that my education at Fordham would be enough better to justify the debt.

Now, if Columbia takes me off their reserve list...that's a different equation!

Great thread! 

I'm non-traditional b/c I'm 29 and out of undergrad for eight years.  I already did the "returning student" gig once, as I went back and got my masters degree after a few years out of school.

Curious if a lot of the other "grownups" are having similar frustrations - my undergrad GPA was pretty lousy by law school standards (3.0).  BUT that was the better part of a decade ago, and it was in the hard sciences, and I had a pretty compelling medical situation (I had a functioning brain tumor which wasn't diagnosed until a year after college - no lie!)  Since then I've built up a great resume, earned a 3.9 in a masters program at Cornell, and scored 172 on the LSAT. 

Anyway, I've gotten pended or waitlisted at a lot of the higher-ranked schools on my list, and I'm sure it comes down to that undergrad GPA.  I understand that there are plenty of people with great GPAs and high LSATs, that they don't put much emphasis on grad GPAs etc...but I still want to scream!  Anyone else battling their early transgressions?

One other point...I went to a program at Cardozo last night.  During the "bond with current students" event, they really impressed me by grouping all of the non-traditional students together.  Subtle, but it was great to hear from current students with spouses and responsibilities and life experience.  I'm sick of hearing from 22 yr olds that I should attend their school because it ROCKS! 

Mine is staying.  I'm a labor relations professional who interacts with attorneys all the time, and I have never once lost a negotiation or an arbitration because there's a tiny stud in my nose.  It's really been a non-issue. 

I will say, though, I think it would be tougher if I had a septum or a medusa or something.  There's still a lot of negative judgement against most facial piercings.  But the nostril seems to be pretty accepted at this point.  At least in NYC.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: The NYU Wait - anyone else?
« on: March 24, 2006, 07:31:14 AM »
yep, my file's been complete there for ages.  NYU and UPenn are the only two I'm still waiting to hear from. 

I can't predict either, because my stats are all over the place.  Undergrad GPA sucked (3.0), but it was almost ten years ago (and in the hard sciences).  In the meantime, I built up a good resume, got my masters at Cornell with a 3.9 GPA and scored a 172 on the LSAT.  I think the schools just don't know what to do with me. 

But I agree with the other posters...just answer me already!  Even if it's a ding or a waitlist, get me out of no-response limbo!!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Cardozo v Brooklyn
« on: March 24, 2006, 07:25:15 AM »
I'm dealing with the same decision right now.  My immediate decision is Cardozo v. Brooklyn.  Then I need to just hang tight and wait to hear about the four places that have me pended. 

I've spent some time at both Cardozo and Brooklyn in both formal and informal settings.  For me, it is Cardozo hands-down, no contest.  I think previous posters hit it squarely when they said that the decision needs to come down to gut-level instinct.  Everytime I've visited Cardozo I've been wowed.  My sense is that there's a genuine community there, and the professors, administration and students are all equally committed to a high level of intellectual discourse.  I haven't had a bad experience at Brooklyn at all, and know I could get a great education there, but they just haven't excited me the way Cardozo has.   

Then there's the housing issue.  C'mon, people.  Yes.  Landing an apartment in NYC is an experience like no other.  Finding my current place was more work than getting into graduate school (and I have an Ivy League masters degree!)  However, it is doable.  I currently live in the heart of Chelsea in a doorman building for under $1000/month.  And it's a studio, but it's a nice studio.  A close friend has a studio in Hell's Kitchen for $750.  The reality is that there are good deals and bad deals to be found everywhere.  It just takes leg work, patience, persistance, thick skin, and a relatively well-developed sense of humor.  For some people, it's just not worth it.  For a lot of us, living in the city is well worth the (tremendous flaming) hassle.   

In the Bklyn v. Manhattan debate...bear in mind that Brooklyn Heights is very expensive...we're talking Manhattan prices.  Other parts of Brooklyn are great and much more affordable, but not necessarily so accessible to BLS.  Parts of Manhattan are much cheaper, but you're looking at a long commute. 

Believe me, I'm not trying to downplay Brooklyn (the borough or the law school).  I'm saying that there's no easy calculus to make this decision.  And, I guess, trying to reassure everyone not native to NYC that it IS possible to live there.   

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