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I just talked to a good friend of mine from college.  He's currently applying to MFA programs.  I was amazed by how little we had in common.  No jokes, no common interests.  He didn't even want to hear about my law school.  When I tried to talk about anything in the past, it felt terrible.  I ended up asking him a few awkward questions about his current life and hanging up.

Times like these make you doubt the very foundations of friendship. What do we really have in common with another human being? 

Does anyone ever have similar experiences?


No! I'm out of high school 15 years now, and my closest friends from back then are still among my closest friends today. I had the good fortune of making more amazing friends in college and have stayed close with all of them as well. Our lives have taken us in very different directions literally, professionally, and personally but we've stayed tight.

The funny thing is that between college and law school (~ 7 years) I only made a handful of 'keeper' friends. A few from work, a few from grad school . . . but there were a lot more amazing people I genuinely felt close to and then failed to keep in touch with. I suspect the law school friends are here for the long haul.

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3L job search / Re: Federal Government Honors Programs
« on: December 26, 2008, 08:45:29 AM »
Got a call last Thursday afternoon from one of the Regional Offices, wanting an interview the next morning  :o 

That seems to be how they roll! It's like, "Hi, we'd like to interview you . . . right now." Good luck to you, too!

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3L job search / Re: Federal Government Honors Programs
« on: December 19, 2008, 03:57:20 PM »
i was contacted by NLRB GC's office in late november/early december about an interview, and by the board earlier this week.

Me too. Good luck!

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3L job search / Re: SO Pissed...
« on: December 08, 2008, 07:38:28 AM »
Yeah, this is flame. Yawn. Still, it's entertainment, right?

Here's one of my favorite parts:

But I just wish we worked in a more cooperative setting . . . Where's the f-in' love, yo? 

WTF is up with everyone?! The fact that other people are going through worse *&^%...dosen't make things any less wrong! Yes, people work 60 hrs. / week at Micky D's and can't afford their monthly rent...but I'm still pissed when I get screwed!!!  >:( Everyone else should be fighting their own battle.

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3L job search / Re: Federal Government Honors Programs
« on: December 03, 2008, 02:53:42 PM »
tag

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Getting into T14 w/low gpa
« on: December 03, 2008, 02:41:28 PM »
Your situation seems reasonably analogous to mine (28 at time of app., 2.6 GPA, 172 LSAT, good WE, solid graduate work), except that I applied a few years ago. I ended up in at 2 T14s, WL and withdrew from 2 others, big $$$$ from a T50-ish.

You're a true splitter (GPA < 3.0, LSAT >170). Splitter cycles are notoriously unpredictable. Generally, a low GPA is somewhat mitigated by intervening time and evidence of subsequent success. Still, this cycle may be crazier than normal, what with the economy in the crapper and everyone fleeing to graduate school like rats from a ship.

The best advice I can give is to make sure the rest of your application is perfect. Then hold tight, don't get discouraged if (when) your cycle lasts a lot longer than other people's, and have faith.


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General Board / Re: How do you know if withdrawing is the right decision?
« on: November 05, 2008, 12:08:27 PM »
I can only offer anecdotal information (and I'll let you determine its value as advice): I'm also a non-trad and have had some of the same concerns about my life/career balance.  That said, I've never regretted coming to law school (and yay 185 days till graduation!).  I also have two very close friends from college who dropped out of law school during 1L.  They had both gone straight from college.  One of them didn't do well as a 1L and decided to cut her losses.  The other came out 7th in her class after 1st semester, but decided to stop going a few weeks into her second semester.  This was about a decade ago for both of them.  They've both gone on to happy and productive and successful lives, and I've never heard either one voice regret for not completing her JD.  I think you're going to have to trust your gut here, and know that whatever you choose it will not be the end of the world.   

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2L job search / Re: Summer job and your pet?
« on: October 22, 2008, 12:51:46 PM »
I was in D.C. for 1L summer and NY for 2L summer with my 2 big dogs.  It meant making some sacrifices, but there was no way that I was going to ditch the pooches.  The best move I made during my 2L summer was hiring a dog walker to come for an hour a day, 5 days a week.  It meant that I could go straight to firm events and/or stay late at work and know that they had gotten their exercise and playtime.  It also meant an extra $600 a month, but them's the breaks. 

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Law Firms / Re: Non-traditional students hired by biglaw firms?
« on: October 05, 2008, 12:12:11 AM »
Over 40 non-trad here.

T1 school, top 1/3 grades, significant prior work experience.

Got offers from several V100 firms.

IMHO, school matters lots, grades matter lots, age is not such a big deal so long as you don't give them a reason to make it one.  I learned very quickly it was very important that I let them know that I knew I was asking to be an entry level employee, and that I am totally accepting of that.

Some didn't believe me, but enough did (which is good, because it's true).



smells flamish...

key indicators:
1. poster identifies himself as the exact perfect candidate we would need to solve this little dilemma
2. poster offers some lame insight anyone could have come up with
3. poster insists his post is true...
4. first ever post by someone named "321123"...

smells like shivenstein

Well here:

1. I'm in my 30s, 3L at Michigan. . .
2. I have no insights lame or otherwise, other than that I suspect I did slightly less well in OCI than I would have 8-10 years ago, or even 4-5 years ago, but still had several callbacks. . .
3. Regardless, I got a NYC biglaw gig at the firm which had been my top pick going in. . .
4. Enough posters know me IRL (or a vague facsimile) to know that this is 100% fact. . . 




I thought you were a figment of my imagination!   ;D

Actually, I've been wondering if you even know who I am.  I've said "hi" to you a couple of times in passing at school, but I can't remember if I "revealed" myself at ASW or not. 

I don't think you did, or it could be Old Person Memory Loss on my part. ;)  Give me the secret handshake or something next time.

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Law Firms / Re: Non-traditional students hired by biglaw firms?
« on: October 03, 2008, 07:17:26 AM »
Over 40 non-trad here.

T1 school, top 1/3 grades, significant prior work experience.

Got offers from several V100 firms.

IMHO, school matters lots, grades matter lots, age is not such a big deal so long as you don't give them a reason to make it one.  I learned very quickly it was very important that I let them know that I knew I was asking to be an entry level employee, and that I am totally accepting of that.

Some didn't believe me, but enough did (which is good, because it's true).



smells flamish...

key indicators:
1. poster identifies himself as the exact perfect candidate we would need to solve this little dilemma
2. poster offers some lame insight anyone could have come up with
3. poster insists his post is true...
4. first ever post by someone named "321123"...

smells like shivenstein

Well here:

1. I'm in my 30s, 3L at Michigan. . .
2. I have no insights lame or otherwise, other than that I suspect I did slightly less well in OCI than I would have 8-10 years ago, or even 4-5 years ago, but still had several callbacks. . .
3. Regardless, I got a NYC biglaw gig at the firm which had been my top pick going in. . .
4. Enough posters know me IRL (or a vague facsimile) to know that this is 100% fact. . . 



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