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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: list of top IP schools
« on: April 28, 2005, 07:11:49 PM »
franklin pierce is an IP powerhouse

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im about to finish my first year. i think that everything this dude has said totally true - FOR HIS SCHOOL. what i mean is, in my school, there is no way i could have gotten away with just using supplements. the questions the profs ask can only be answered, usually, in the text of the case. I'm not saying that ALL the questions they ask are specific to the text of the case, but most are. For example, the profs no doubt will ask somewhere in their questiong, the holding, the rule, etc. - and for those questions using a supplement is fine. however, it has been my experience that profs also ask questions such as, "what was the plaintiff's argument? what did they base it on?" etc, and, for the most part, commercial supplements do not break down the material this far. Further, most of my profs, and i heard this is a growing trend in law schools throughout the nation, place an emphasis on class participation. For instance, in 3 of my classes, the prof has told us if we come to class unprepared they will knock our final grade down by one full letter grade - and if it happens a second time, they will tell us to leave the class and not let us take the final. I have several other friends in other law schools who, while not the same threat, have encountered similar thing.

On a side note, one of the great tools u develop in law school is the ability to read and synthesize the material. By not reading any cases and basing ur outlines totally on supplements, u r robbing urself of developing this ability. Furthermore, what are you gonna do when u actually pass the bar and have to practice? Lawyers dont memorize the material, for the most part, they are required to, after having been approached by a client with a particular issue, to research the relevant case law and decide what will support the position they are hired to take. By not developing this ability in law school, to read a case and know what the hell is relevant and what is not, you till be at a severe disadvantage when u begin to practice.

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u can just call their admin offices and ask.

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Go to Iowa.  How could you turn down Hawkeye football, a Big 10 campus, and 10's of thousands of blonde, beautiful Midwestern girls?  Don't be foolish.

LOLOLOL - only a bush-supporter would come up with a complete asinine comment like that.

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dude - dont u have a life?

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ur not at a disadvantage. this is what your constitutional law class is for. possibly the worst class your first year.

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LSAC and LSDAS / Re: New/Old Crime Question
« on: March 31, 2005, 06:15:18 PM »
You should keep us posted on what happens.  Incidentally enough, the night after I read your post I got arrested for DUI.  Goddamn it.  I'm not sure how I'm going to let the schools know but man I hope it doesn't mess up my chances for those that I haven't heard back yet from or make those that accepted me reconsider.  Good luck for both you and me bro!

yo, if i were u i would wait until after u have a final disposition to the matter before u disclose anything to ur schools. who knows - u could plead it down to a lesser offense.

in ny if u are charged with a DWI(misdemeanor), u can plead it down to a DWAI(traffic infraction; not a crime).

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News Discussion / Re: Supreme Court to reconsider Roe v Wade
« on: March 31, 2005, 12:16:29 AM »
1.  One of the articles was in Prevention and I think it was a relatively recent one.  It was the cover story so you could probably find it with just a little bit of research if you were so inclined.  I don't know the exact date on it because I was reading someone else's copy.  This was the one where I got the 40 to 60 stats from.  The other was in Time. The March 7th edition.  On the cover is a woman in a doctor's coat and the headline reads "The Math Myth."  The title of the article was The Case for Compromise on Abortion.

2.  I'm not discounting it.  But I am calling it what it is - speculation.  It could be true, but the "Pink Elephant Hypothesis" could also be true.

3.  Yes.  It was in the prevention article.  But I also have a closet full of medical textbooks that will back this claim up.


Thanks for the info.

4.  You missed my point.  I agree that I did not word it in the best possible manner but my point is that you can't have an abortion unless you are pregnant.  If you want to prevent abortions or at least decrease the number of them, one of the best way to do this is to get people to use pregnancy preventing/contraceptive methods (and, yes, that does include not having sex).  These methods may not be perfect, but most are pretty darn effective.  I guarantee if you studied the number of couples who used both the pill and condoms, the rate of pregnancy among these couples would be exceedingly low!

I donít think I missed your point.  I agree that decreasing the number of pregnancies will decrease the number of unnatural abortions.  However, what is in contention is whether or not the pill causes an abortion.  You are arguing against people who think the pill causes (or has the potential to cause) an abortion.  The statement that I said is missing the point is the one where you express that you canít understand why some people who are against abortion are also against using the pill (because the pill would prevent many natural abortions).  I think this whole issue is a red herring because no one is interested in legislating natural abortions (miscarriages).

I am not for abortion...at all!  I can not see myself ever being presented with a circumstance where I would resort to having an abortion because I feel so strongly that it is wrong. 

I do not doubt this (I believe you already made this clear and I commend you for it).

However, that is my belief and I also believe that others have the right to believe differently than me! 

I have no problem with people believing what they want.

The laws in our country protect different views and I don't think that it would be right to enforce my belief on all women in many different circumstances (especially in the cases of rape & incest) by making abortion illegal. 

Iím going to interpret your statement to mean that you donít want to enforce your particular belief that abortion is wrong on other women.  Perhaps you could elaborate on your belief that abortion is wrong and that you would never have one.  What kind of wrong is it?  Is it the same kind of wrong as murder?  Is it the kind of wrong that violates the rights of unborn children?  Some people just say they would never have one (because of the physical and emotional experiences involved) but you are also saying it is wrong.  Why?

If there were a way to sexually molest children in the womb I would say that I would never do it, that it is wrong and that it should be illegal.  I assume that you would say you would never do it and that it is wrong but would you say that it should be illegal?

Plus, (maybe because I live with a future doctor), I look at it from a medically-oriented perspective in that just because you make abortions illegal does not mean that they will stop! Believe me, you will still have women going to back alley abortion clinics and having unsafe abortions.  You will still have women sticking coat hangers up their v*ginas and trying to loose the baby by drinking and using drugs.  Making abortion illegal may save some lives but it will also endanger many lives.  

I agree that making abortions illegal will not stop them.  If we make abortion illegal, it will be because we have recognized that children in the womb have a right to live and to take away that right would be murder.  You say that this would result in mothers taking matters into their own hands, causing more deaths.  While some might take matters into their own hands, I believe that many more would realize that it would not be worth the risk.  More importantly, those women who are willing to take that risk are still committing a murder.  I do not buy into the argument that we should make murder legal because women who try to kill their children might die in the process if it is illegal.

And you will have the added bonus having having really screwed up kids being born to Moms who don't want them.

So we should kill them instead?  Which part of the ďadded bonusĒ deserves the death penalty being screwed up or being unwanted (or is it the combination)?  There are a lot of people out there who are screwed up, unwanted or both.  Shall we kill them also?

I think there is a much better way of dealing with abortion!  And I think that way is to promote pregnancy preventing methods.  

I agree.

My beef is with the people who scream about making abortion illegal and in the same breath want to take away birth control.  I think this is totally unrealistic.

I agree only if birth control never equals abortion.

  I heard just this morning on the news that my city had the highest rate of teen pregnancy in the nation in the 10-14 year old range.  I see it everyday!  People burrying their head in the sand and acting like this thing is going to go away!  Teens and adults are going to have sex and the responsible way of dealing with it is to educate them about the dangers and give them a means of protecting themselves against STD's and pregnancy...and educating someone does not mean that you are promoting the activity.

I agree that education does not necessarily equal promotion.  I believe that it is one of the responsible ways of dealing with the high rate of teen pregnancy.


some people have too much time on their hands

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Albany Law School
« on: March 29, 2005, 09:13:03 PM »
Hi There!!

I was accepted to Albany too!

I was wondering if I could speak with you regarding the law school?

Hope all is well.

Lisa

yeah, im lipper316, i deleted my account by accident a couple of months ago, so this is my new name.
Lisa - feel free to PM any questions u have, im a 1L at albany now.

pcfordham - this post was from LAST march, but i heard from them in late march. im sure ur acceptance is coming soon.

any of u guys planning on going to the open house next weekend?

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my point is that to write a good exam, u first must actually know the law. focusing on the actual law supplements, rather than exam-writing tips supplements is a bigger help.

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