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General Off-Topic Board / Re: When will / did LSD Jump The Shark?
« on: May 09, 2006, 02:18:10 PM »
LSD jumps the shark every year after people get their acceptances. 

I tend to agree with this.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: NYLS vs. CUNY
« on: March 22, 2006, 08:59:05 PM »
just a note on the law you learn in law school - it isn't concentrated on a state. you learn general law. you only learn the state's law when u study for the bar exam. at NYLS you'll be reading cases from california, oregon, new york, etc.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: NYLS vs. CUNY
« on: March 21, 2006, 08:00:11 PM »
too bad NYU isn't NYLS.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: NYLS vs. CUNY
« on: March 21, 2006, 07:58:51 PM »
ok - something constructive:

Becket is pretty on point. The biggest thing you should worry about is if you do attend CUNY, your options will be limited. You said you haven't ruled out private practice - I'd say go with NYLS. You can always go into public interest out of NYLS, but going into private practice from CUNY will be tough. Also, I believe NYLS has a loan assistance repayment program (i would look into this), where if you make under a certain amount NYLS will pay your loans up to 30Gs. The cutoff for this is normally pretty low, around 40Gs a year - but this is something that could be used to offset expense those first few low paying years in a public interest job.

Another thing - dont think that CUNY will put you in a better position to get into a DA's office because it won't. Perhaps CUNY may be better if you would like to do some sort of child advocacy or something like that, but for government jobs, NYLS would be a better choice.



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Where should I go next fall? / Re: NYLS vs. CUNY
« on: March 21, 2006, 07:24:56 PM »
wow, all this advice from people who have no idea what they are talkin about.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Most Arrogant Law School
« on: March 21, 2006, 10:35:17 AM »
not clear if you are speaking about faculy, administration, or students.

I cant speak for faculty or administration, however I have had the opportunity to intern with several students from cardozo and they were fine.

Keep in mind that the students that post on here, as well as on the xoxo board are not indicative of the average normal law student. In fact, most law students haven't even heard of these boards.

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Difficulty of the school? haha, you are going to hate this answer but it really depends on the prof. My first year property class was hard as hell. I got a 38 on the final, and that was a C+ (my lowest grade). I think a 50 was an A. I thought criminal law was easy, i got an A (170-something/200 possible points), but I also went to John Jay College of Criminal Justice for undergrad. so a lot of it was a review. If i had to put a number on it - difficulty i would have to say its about an 8. Law school is going to be hard no matter where you go. One of my best friends is a 2L at Fordham Law and we learn the same EXACT things, same type of tests (essays), etc.

The 2.0 should not be a problem to maintain - the first year curve is a 2.5 (pretty harsh).

No, albany gave me no $$$, so im going to have to pay back about 120Gs in loans when I graduate. Thank god my undergrad loans are only 10Gs.

Similar situation as you? I had a decent GPA(3.5), but a not so decent LSAT(153), so my options were pretty limited. I was accepted to quinnipiac, syracuse, albany, touro, and pace. I chose albany because, contrary to what a lot of people think on these boards, most places dont place that much weight on the rankings. They place weight on names, like Yale, harvard, chicago, nyu - ya know, the best schools. So while, syracuse and buffalo are ranked higher, to firms in NYC, we are all the same.

Just tossin this out there, but once you get to law school, the rankings thing goes out the window. nobody cares. were not at harvard and we know it.

And to just rebut what a 3L told you about the quality of the students, i'd take that with a grain of salt. (you also cant take what 1Ls say cause they have NO idea what the hell they are doing) My first year summer job was at DA's office near NYC. I was one of about 20 interns from just about every law school in NYC from NYU to CUNY. we all had no idea what were doing. we all were lost as to what to research, how to do it, and how to write it up. so to say that albany law is full of less-than-smart people, is somewhat of a misguided statement. or maybe its just that all law schools are filled with less-than-smart people, and as a 3L at albany, not attending law school anywhere else, he had no way to compare his experience with anything else.

I think perhaps he was alluding to the fact that people at albany law are laid back in class. Of course, this is not to be confused with exam time, when it all hits the fan, and people would stab you for an A.




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as a 2L at albany i'd thought i'd chime in. Honestly, there isn't much of a difference between the three. Cuse is what like very very bottom of tier 2, same thing with buffalo. dont place too much on the rankings, if u dont go to a top tier 1, ur gonna have trouble finding a job in NYC no matter what.

however its not impossible - my 2L summer job is in NYC, as well as a lot of other people, and I'm not on law review or any journal. if u have any questions, feel free to PM me.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Toledo or Albany?
« on: March 10, 2006, 11:56:17 PM »
hmmmm, i believe albany is above the average, but the highest? i doubt that.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Toledo or Albany?
« on: March 09, 2006, 04:07:20 PM »
just to give a couple opinions about what the previous poster said:

1. YES! the tuition is too high! and it is only going to climb. its increasing again this year.

2. we have a 2 week exam schedule. although it still weeds out 1Ls. i think 15 out of 250 failed out last semester.

3. our bar passges rate is low. although it has been climbing - 78% seems about right.

4. Career Services - we have a lot of opportunities in albany, and pretty much all of upstate NY. Placement in NYC is pretty much only the top 25%. That said, if u work hard enough and apply to enough places, something will give. I am in the bottom half of my class and I have a 2L summer job in NYC. My 1L summer job was in Westchester.

Now having said all that. Back in the 80s, albany law was ranked in the bottom of tier 1, and consistently in tier 2. In the early 90s, the law school needed to finance the building of a new library, and so they admitted a whole lot more students than it normally would, thus decreasing the standards (average class now is 250, but back then it was 330). They are now trying to increase in the rankings, obviously, so they are becoming more selective. Although, aren't most schools trying to do this? only time will tell if their efforts will pay off.


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