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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Valpo help...just accepted
« on: November 22, 2004, 06:53:11 PM »
I'm pretty wide open.  I'm kind of a Pacific Northwest bug (most of my apps. are there).  Is Valpo that regionally limited?  Years ago when I was accepted, a local alum even called me from a nearby town and a faculty member called me at home.  Thanks for the feedback!


Have you applied to Willamette? I'd be hesitant to leave the PNW for Indiana, but I know little about either. I do know that Indiana is really flat. As far as I know all T3 and T4 schools are pretty regionally limited when it comes to placement, but who cares? You couldn't pay me enough to live in NY, LA, or Chicago. To many damn people, too little time and space for reflection and living life. Besides, I think most of this school prestige crap is hooey. A professional is only as good as he makes himself. Law school is just a necessary step to becoming a lawyer.

Go someplace you want to live for three years and maybe beyond. And don't just be a student; make yourself a member of the community. A lawyer should be to the law what a plumber is to the town's pipes.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Accepted: U of Texas
« on: November 22, 2004, 06:34:32 PM »
Do you think I'd be wasting my money applying to UT-Austin (out of state) with a 3.98/163 and 2 years work experience at a fortune 100? 

Numbers-wise it looks like it might be a waste, but their 25th-75th is 160 - 166, so that means the median is probably right around a 163 or 164.  I don't want to waste $70 if I don't have to--anyone think it's worth it?   

UT's mean LSAT is a 165. I read on another thread where a UT adm. officer told someone else on this site at a law school forum that the accepted stats for out-of-staters and Texas residents were very similar. I have no idea of the validity or truth of this statement, but I don't think (especially with your stats.) that you should be discouraged from applying just because you are not from Texas. Your LSAT is barely below the mean and your GPA is well above the 75 percentile. Why not?  423 people applied to UT last year with a 3.75+ GPA and a LSAT between 160-164.  173 of those people were accepted.  That is about a 40% acceptance rate for people in your range.  On top of that, both your GPA & your LSAT score are on the upper end of that spectrum.  I would say that you probably have a pretty good shot!  At least a good enough shot that it warrants an application!   

Also, another poster on this website was from out-of-state and got accepted with about a 3.0/163-171 LSAT split. Those may not be her exact stats, but they were pretty close to that.

This is a good analysis. Let's take it a step further. 40% of the people in that range were accepted. Let's assume that 20% of them were out-of state (TX is 80% residents, not 70% as someone mentioned). That makes your chances of admission 8%. Now, considering that it appears TX is weighing the LSAT much more heavily than GPA this year (speculation, but a look at the current numbers makes a compelling case for this), your chances are probably a little bit lower than that 8%.

I'm a gambling man, so I'd spend the 70 bucks. But be aware of the odds.

Doesn't Berkeley like candidates with your stats?

Law School Admissions / Re: Title for an Attorney
« on: November 22, 2004, 02:40:46 PM »
Yeah, I'd definitely go with 'Mr.'

It is correct to call a lawyer 'Dr.', but that's pretty pretentious.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Who will accept me first?
« on: November 22, 2004, 10:39:02 AM »
A little sidenote.  I just talked to the Baylor people and it turns out I got a full-ride there.  It's in a location (between Austin/Dallas) that I'm pretty sure I'll like, working there after graduation (I know Waco isn't exactly fantasyland, but I won't see the outside of their library for 3 years anyway).

This pretty much hacks off my "taking them seriously list" any school that is below Tier 1, as now I'd be mildly retarded to pass up going to a Tier 1 for free over a Tier 2/3 school. 

Wow with those numbers you can get into much better schools can't you?  Loans are a really big thing for you huh?

Congrats. I live in Austin and Waco is about an hour's drive from here. Baylor has an incredible reputation for kicking out great lawyers.

Law School Admissions / Re: failure to disclose = screwed ?
« on: November 21, 2004, 05:47:38 PM »
First, of course, you'll want to make sure you got the ticket. Cops often don't bother to issue the citation in an accident like yours, probaby thinking you've suffered enough. All 16 schools I applied to specified that this type of violation had to be disclosed. 3 of them even wanted to know about my speeding tickets.

I also agree that this probably wouldn't make any difference at all in your admissions chances. You've got nothing to lose by disclosure.

Law School Admissions / Re: twins applying to law schools
« on: November 21, 2004, 05:37:38 PM »
Why?  If I were the adcom, I'd love to read about it.

I completely agree. This is exactly the type of interesting thing that makes an application (or two) stand out. I'd mention it in passing in the P.S.

Law School Admissions / Re: Interesting situation....
« on: November 21, 2004, 05:29:03 PM »
Seems simple to me. You weren't dismissed because you withdrew. Therefore, you were not dismissed at all and have nothing to disclose.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Who will accept me first?
« on: November 21, 2004, 01:36:06 PM »

You may already know this, but I'm pretty sure you're an auto-admit at Arkansas. If I remember correctly, out-of-state applicants with an index of 205 or above are automatically in. Yours is 207.8.

I had heard about this, but do you know whether or not they're generous with the scholarship $$ for out of state students?

No idea. Sorry. But out-of-state tuition is pretty darn low anyways.

Probably not, Tex. I no longer look like that, as a condition of my marriage ;)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: List of Schools that don't have a fee
« on: November 19, 2004, 06:31:33 PM »
Willamette- still free if you use LSACD on the web

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