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Law School Admissions / Re: The "Average" LSDer
« on: November 23, 2004, 08:00:28 PM »

I want to be a lawyer, and I'm doing what I have to do to get there.

EXACTLY! (and well-put)

Nothing stands in the way of a determined soul. Undergraduate school was a joke for me. I became interested in the world, myself, and school about three years AFTER school was over. The LSAT? Give me a freaking break. Honestly, I resent the childishness of law schools in relying on such a shabby instrument of measurement (although I understand the simplicity and economy of its use. That's no excuse for the resulting pettyness.) Law school? BRING IT ON! It's standing in the way of my career as a lawyer.

Law School Admissions / Re: hello everyone + typo
« on: November 23, 2004, 12:39:11 PM »
OK, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that a phone call may be usefull here, especially since you have a British accent (which Americans absolutely ADORE, whether we say so or not). You could call Professor Katz (Kutz) directly and nicely thank him for meeting with you and then apologize (apologise I mean, since you're British) for spelling his name wrong. This will make it back to the admissions commitee in the form of, "That nice British candidate called me to apologize for spelling my name wrong. Isn't that special?"

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Any singers out there?
« on: November 23, 2004, 11:35:45 AM »
I am a reformed opera singer as well!!!  I am singing the Lord's Prayer in B-flat and singing "You Raise Me Up" by Josh Groban in A-flat.  I have also had a few drinks tonight and found that that helps one's voice a bit as well :).  I am terrified about Saturday, so I will do all of the aforementioned voice tricks...thanks so much!

Also, does anyone know where to get Throat Coat?

I sang those two songs for a friend's wedding this past August.  Not easy to sing when you are not feeling good, but I am sure you know that!  Good luck!
Those exact two? Wow!  That's such a coincidence.  I wasn't crazy about the JG song, but it's (slowly) growing on me!

in the meantime, drink a bunch of emergen-Cs
Lexy--what are emergen-Cs (besides a cute name)?

And don't take anything with pseudoephedrine in it- it dries you out and screws with your head.
Shrimpy--can you recommend a cold/sinus medication without pseudoephedrine in it?  Everything I've tried has it in it.

I shall henceforth be know as "Shrimpy"...

I've found that I'd rather suffer the stuffiness than deal with the effects of pseudoephedrine while singing, but if you're really stuffed up, you may not have a choice. I'd go with ibuprofen or something and ignore the stuffiness. I second the above warning against any throat sprays. The booze really does work.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Accepted: U of Texas
« on: November 22, 2004, 08:15:16 PM »
DOCTORS have patients. This is a LAW school board.

Oh....PATIENCE, not patients. Sorry about that.

You are absolutely correct. My obsession with law school admissions is becoming unhealthy and it's turning me into an inept, fair-weather, weekend statistitian. I shall now retire for now and do somehting productive.

I'm reading "One L"

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Are you...
« on: November 22, 2004, 08:06:29 PM »
I'm introverted, but not antisocial. I'm most comfortable when NOT talking to stranges, but I'll do it to get something from them. Honestly, I'm really looking forward to everything about law school EXCEPT the social aspects. Considering the first year of law school is the most important, and that the ONLY things that matter are the grades on a couple of tests, I doubt that being introverted is a disadvantage in law school. After all, this is a profession requiring long hours of solitude and pensiveness.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Any singers out there?
« on: November 22, 2004, 07:59:57 PM »
Weird question: I'm singing in a wedding on Saturday, and feel myself getting a terrible cold.  I'm terrified that I'm going to sound like darn.  Does anyone have any pre-emptive throat remedies? So far I've done tea, chloraseptic, and sinus medicine, but I'm willing to try just about anything.

I'm singer, and I've done lots of weddings and stuff- some of them while sick. Now, you gotta trust me on this. Lemon drops. Yeah. Lemon drops and a shot of whiskey. And don't take anything with pseudoephedrine in it- it dries you out and screws with your head. Lemon drops, whiskey, and RELAX. Good luck!

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Valpo help...just accepted
« on: November 22, 2004, 07:53:11 PM »
I'm pretty wide open.  I'm kind of a Pacific Northwest bug (most of my apps. are there).  Is Valpo that regionally limited?  Years ago when I was accepted, a local alum even called me from a nearby town and a faculty member called me at home.  Thanks for the feedback!


Have you applied to Willamette? I'd be hesitant to leave the PNW for Indiana, but I know little about either. I do know that Indiana is really flat. As far as I know all T3 and T4 schools are pretty regionally limited when it comes to placement, but who cares? You couldn't pay me enough to live in NY, LA, or Chicago. To many damn people, too little time and space for reflection and living life. Besides, I think most of this school prestige crap is hooey. A professional is only as good as he makes himself. Law school is just a necessary step to becoming a lawyer.

Go someplace you want to live for three years and maybe beyond. And don't just be a student; make yourself a member of the community. A lawyer should be to the law what a plumber is to the town's pipes.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Accepted: U of Texas
« on: November 22, 2004, 07:34:32 PM »
Do you think I'd be wasting my money applying to UT-Austin (out of state) with a 3.98/163 and 2 years work experience at a fortune 100? 

Numbers-wise it looks like it might be a waste, but their 25th-75th is 160 - 166, so that means the median is probably right around a 163 or 164.  I don't want to waste $70 if I don't have to--anyone think it's worth it?   

UT's mean LSAT is a 165. I read on another thread where a UT adm. officer told someone else on this site at a law school forum that the accepted stats for out-of-staters and Texas residents were very similar. I have no idea of the validity or truth of this statement, but I don't think (especially with your stats.) that you should be discouraged from applying just because you are not from Texas. Your LSAT is barely below the mean and your GPA is well above the 75 percentile. Why not?  423 people applied to UT last year with a 3.75+ GPA and a LSAT between 160-164.  173 of those people were accepted.  That is about a 40% acceptance rate for people in your range.  On top of that, both your GPA & your LSAT score are on the upper end of that spectrum.  I would say that you probably have a pretty good shot!  At least a good enough shot that it warrants an application!   

Also, another poster on this website was from out-of-state and got accepted with about a 3.0/163-171 LSAT split. Those may not be her exact stats, but they were pretty close to that.

This is a good analysis. Let's take it a step further. 40% of the people in that range were accepted. Let's assume that 20% of them were out-of state (TX is 80% residents, not 70% as someone mentioned). That makes your chances of admission 8%. Now, considering that it appears TX is weighing the LSAT much more heavily than GPA this year (speculation, but a look at the current numbers makes a compelling case for this), your chances are probably a little bit lower than that 8%.

I'm a gambling man, so I'd spend the 70 bucks. But be aware of the odds.

Doesn't Berkeley like candidates with your stats?

Law School Admissions / Re: Title for an Attorney
« on: November 22, 2004, 03:40:46 PM »
Yeah, I'd definitely go with 'Mr.'

It is correct to call a lawyer 'Dr.', but that's pretty pretentious.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Who will accept me first?
« on: November 22, 2004, 11:39:02 AM »
A little sidenote.  I just talked to the Baylor people and it turns out I got a full-ride there.  It's in a location (between Austin/Dallas) that I'm pretty sure I'll like, working there after graduation (I know Waco isn't exactly fantasyland, but I won't see the outside of their library for 3 years anyway).

This pretty much hacks off my "taking them seriously list" any school that is below Tier 1, as now I'd be mildly retarded to pass up going to a Tier 1 for free over a Tier 2/3 school. 

Wow with those numbers you can get into much better schools can't you?  Loans are a really big thing for you huh?

Congrats. I live in Austin and Waco is about an hour's drive from here. Baylor has an incredible reputation for kicking out great lawyers.

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