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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Is Harvard worth it???
« on: February 26, 2005, 12:11:47 PM »
I would also suggest seeking counsel from Harvard grads in the area I want to practice and other students admitted to Harvard.  Once that little acceptance letter is in your hand, it is a very different ballgame from just dreaming about how cool Harvard is.  I thought I'd go in a heartbeat, but then the realities set in once the letter arrived and I started to really think twice.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Who wants to be a law prof?
« on: February 26, 2005, 11:17:47 AM »
Three things that will help to get a law prof job.

1. Going to a T4 school of Berkely as they focus more on the theory of law

2. Getting published especially in law.

3. Being geographically mobil.

Actually, according to Leiter, UMich and Chicago are both better for teaching than Columbia (which I guess you are including in your "T4".. whatever that is) and Berkeley.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Is Harvard worth it???
« on: February 26, 2005, 09:12:42 AM »
If you want academia in the US, Harvard is the clear choice.  I don't know for your other possibilities.

-Any Beatles song done by Joe Cocker

-Jimi' Hendrix doing Bob Dylan's "All Along the Watchtower"

-SRV doing Jimi Hendrix's "Little Wing"

-Patsy Cline doing Willie Nelson's "Crazy"

I agree on Joe Cocker for "A Little Help from my Friends" and Hendrix for "Watchtower".  There are several brilliant Dylan songs that sounded better from someone else.  "To make you feel my love" by Billy Joel, Garth Brooks, or even Trisha Yearwood (?!) comes to mind.

The WORST ever (shooting is too good for this crime) was Madonna butchering American Pie.  My number 2 pick for worst ever is the South Park clobbering of "Come Sail Away".  Even though it is supposed to be bad, it actually makes me mildly angry when I hear it.

Limp Biskit's cover of "Faith" is so bad I like it.  It is really funny.

By the way (to whatever crazy person brought this up).. saying anything Michael Bolton ever did could compare to one note from Otis Redding is blasphemy.  Redding had soul.. Bolton had fake/cheesy pop appeal to middle aged women (ala Barry Manilow).

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Who wants to be a law prof?
« on: February 26, 2005, 08:42:19 AM »
I'm considering it like 10-15 years out.  I think it would be a great "retirement" to at least be an adjunct.  I'd love to work directing some of the community development/entrepreneurial clinics that are springing up at law schools, too.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: In @ IU!
« on: February 26, 2005, 08:32:27 AM »
Congrats!  Its a great school in a nice small town.  I visited and fell in love the place.  The faculty were better lecturers than I experienced at UMich and the campus is really nice.  I thought the library was the best.  The room with the big windows looking out into the little woods tops UMich's main room and the top floor of the Harvard library in my opinion.

1) I generally keep school names out of it so people can apply it to their situation without prejudice.  Most on this board would not want anything to do with where I want to practice (and their geographic biases become obvious quickly).  However, several others have been juggling money at T-14 schools.

2) Yeah, sorry if this annoyed anyone.  However, this post did have relevance for others on this board directly and indirectly.  For instance, maybe you are juggling between the lower top 10 and a school at the back end of tier 1.  The 25%/10% quoted by the lawyer would apply to you and might be useful to keep in the back of your mind.  Plus, it is arguably a violation of "always go higher ranked" rule.

Interestingly, one other practicing lawyer I talked to encouraged me to go for the full ride at the lower tier 1 over Harvard (before the top 10 one fell like manna from heaven).  He sees law debt and chasing the prestige as a trap.  If you hang out with the big Harvard lawyers at the big law firms, you start thinking you need to live a certain way.  Once your law school debt gets paid down, you pile on fresh debt for a Jag and a mini-mansion, because your view of reality is twisted.  He started to get sucked in but managed to bail (and felt like he was the ONLY one of his law friends who had escaped).  He now has a great life doing his own thing.  He works hard, but is doing what he loves.  He is doing very well financially and likely on his way to an early/happy retirement, since he drives a cheap VW and lives well below his means.  Definitely something to consider if you are one that gets sucked in by "peer pressure".

My $0.02 on the topic..

I am juggling Harvard w/full ride opportunities at several places (4 in the bag, competing for 3 others, wondering why Northwestern hates me).  I have full-tuition with a living stipend at one top ten school and am presently in competitions for 2 others.  The place where I have the "full-ride" is one of the two best schools if not the best school in the area I want to practice.  I have no interest in NYC type big law and the areas where I believe I will work (so called "secondary" markets") currently top out at $90K-$100K for top associates.  I spoke with a Harvard grad at the top firm in one of these markets and he told me to take the money and laugh all the way to the bank.  He said that his firm generally hired top 10% out of the local state school (still tier 1), the top 25% out of CCNMPV, and the top 50% out of HYS.  For my particular case, there will be at least $150K difference (if not more with cost of living, loan interest, and travel expenses tacked on) from going to Harvard over going to the top 10 school.

To me, Harvard is making less and less sense daily.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Socialized medicine...yea...or...nay?
« on: February 18, 2005, 02:09:37 PM »
Regardless, socializing healthcare is not going to fix the underlying problems Indy brought up, either.  If medical costs do not directly impact people (i.e. the government/insurance pay for it), they will abuse it.  This has happened with college tuition (too much money pouring into the system led to skyrocketing tuition), the environment (a coal fire electric plant bears little of the problem they create), and countless other systems.  Under socialized systems or insurance, people have very little incentive to use their healthcare dollars responsibly.  Any system that fails to address that issue is doomed to massive ineffeciencies if not failure. 

General Off-Topic Board / Re: Socialized medicine...yea...or...nay?
« on: February 18, 2005, 01:41:51 PM »
People complain all of the time about the post office and the IRS, then turn around and support socialized medicine.. baffling!

Maybe it's not the same people.

Do you know anyone not related to an IRS agent that doesn't complain about them?

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