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The fact that Ruskie has decided to reveal so much of her personal life on the internet is disturbing to say the least. It  feels like she wants to be a celebrity.

What person between the ages of 12 and 30 doesn't reveal much of their personal life on the internet? Ever seen facebook, xanga, friendster, myspace?

Me, for example. It's nobody's business what I do and I keep it that way. I am deeply suspicious of people who want to be known by those they have never met. That's not to say I am not engaged in the internet. I have been posting here for at least three years and no one knows the first thing about me other than a few details. The same is true on other sites I use--facebook, other forums.

To each his own, but you must admit that you are the exception rather than the rule.

Why do you want strangers to know about your life? I fundamentally do not understand. Anonymity is a warm blanket.

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The fact that Ruskie has decided to reveal so much of her personal life on the internet is disturbing to say the least. It  feels like she wants to be a celebrity.

What person between the ages of 12 and 30 doesn't reveal much of their personal life on the internet? Ever seen facebook, xanga, friendster, myspace?

Me, for example. It's nobody's business what I do and I keep it that way. I am deeply suspicious of people who want to be known by those they have never met. That's not to say I am not engaged in the internet. I have been posting here for at least three years and no one knows the first thing about me other than a few details. The same is true on other sites I use--facebook, other forums.

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The fact that Ruskie has decided to reveal so much of her personal life on the internet is disturbing to say the least. It  feels like she wants to be a celebrity.

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If it doesn't feel good to read it after two weeks, do yourself and the world a favor and don't go to law school. No matter what schools you got into. No matter how little else you have to do with your life. Just say no.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Worst 3 Things about each T14
« on: May 01, 2007, 04:09:50 PM »
1. the people
2. the stupid crap you have to learn
3. class

applies equally to all law schools

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Law School Rankings / Re: What would you consider a diploma mill?
« on: May 01, 2007, 04:07:06 PM »
Another way of thinking about it is that 3rd and 4th tier schools (although usually expensive-especially in California) make it possible for people with poor grades and LSAT scores to still go to law school.  Those schools aren't prestigious, but if you have the money then you can become a lawyer. 

but that was always the case, because you had 30,000 or fewer applicants for law school rather than 150,000. even 15 years ago harvard was easy as *&^% to get into. all you needed were some decent grades and the equivalent of a 165+ lsat

ultimately no law school is worth the $$$ though. investment banking

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It matters alot; just as the job placement gets better as you move to the high ranked schools, the exit options are that much better from the best firms compared to the 2nd tier. Even if you eventually want to practice in a more "normal" firm, you want to start out at the best firm you can to maximize your eventual options.

Again, I approach this problem with the perspective of my dad, who's a transactional lawyer at a V20 firm...I'm using his information as to what laterals his firm picks up, what schools they can hire from, and what his friends at other firms think of the hiring process,  as guidance to figure out what jobs put you on the track to have a successful career. Your ambition may vary; adjust accordingly.

there are some pretty bad and very unselective firms in the top 20 on vault. the vault list is nothing more than a ranking of M&A practices and has nothing to do with selectivity or even compensation.

anyway it doesn't make sense to go on what one lawyer says even if he is your dad vs. a quantitative, published study like the ciolli study.

also, if you were at a decent firm anywhere and you are now in the lateral market, practically any firm will take you. firms are all fighting over the same 20 midlevel laterals. hence the recent raise.

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So the correct answer is : The differences are very small. Go where you feel most comfortable.



I would take the exact opposite conclusion: The differences b/w NYU and C-C is significant,  since it's as big as the diff b/w C-C and H-S. The diff b/w C-C is statistically insignificant. The diff b/w Y and H-S is huge. The diff b/w M-V and N (let alone C-C) is huge. Penn is halfway b/w NYU and M-V.

This is completely made up. chicago is closer to penn than it is to nyu/columbia in us news points. and they are practically the same in the ciolli study.

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So is this a long winded thread saying if you want to do public interest go to NYU? I'm seriously considering Columbia but am pretty dead set on human rights law, especially internationally in Africa. Would it be a mistake to pick Columbia over NYU if this is one's goal?

I haven't read this thread in its totality, but I just saw this. I actually think Columbia is better for human rights law. The faculty who do human rights are better at Columbia and you are connected to a university that has way better programs over all. Between SIPA, the Earth Institute, and the Business School, there is just a lot more going on at Columbia connected to international human rights and economic development. Columbia also has massive hook-ups with the UN. If you want to work in Africa, and you are deciding between Columbia and NYU, you should almost definitely go to Columbia.



if you want to work for the UN, forget it, you are an american and therefore you have like zero chance because of the quota system they use. you're up against former us attorneys and assistant secretaries of state.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: 1L Advice
« on: January 15, 2007, 03:13:48 AM »
That SUCKS!  We had people listening to music even on closed book exams.  W&M doesn't lock anything down.  It is all honor code.  They juswt trust us not to cheat or have our iPod playing a recording of LEEWS or whatever.   :D

I found it vaguely insulting that our school has us under an honor code and then acts as if we'll disobey it -- open-book in-class exams using lock-down software, no music, etc.


no *&^%.  its like 'we absolutely think you will cheat'

I guarantee that there are law students that cheat, at every school. It's just a matter of when they think they can get away with it. If you aren't one of those people, you should be glad that you have a restrictive testing atmosphere. Otherwise those cheaters would be pushing you down the curve

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