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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: law school prep course
« on: March 05, 2005, 06:55:11 PM »
As I wrote, I took part of the one put on by Barbri. They offered a week long program. I could not go for the entire week. They also allowed you to go to just three days of the week long program for a reduced rate. While that sounded better, I still couldn't go because I was working. So I called them up and said I wanted to go to just the exam writing day. They said that was fine and pro-rated it.

They gave me many of the books they used. The day consisted of a Barbri presenter explaining study schedules, course loads, the importance of grades and competition. He went through the various supplemental materials (commercial outlines, etc.). He then explained about hornbooks, casebooks, briefing, the Bluebook, case citations, reporters, etc. Then they went into a detailed explanation of IRAC.  We had been given an assignment to read and brief a case.  A law professor then came in and lectured and grilled some students in the Socratic method. Then we took an exam question and you tried to write out an answer under timed conditions. I thought it was  pretty decent simulation of law school and I'd do it again.  That's all I can think of right now.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: law school prep course
« on: March 05, 2005, 06:45:33 PM »
Well, do you recall if one was put on by Barbri.  If it was, I took it (part of it, actually) and can comment on it.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: law school prep course
« on: March 05, 2005, 06:32:40 PM »
Which law school prep course?


Choosing the Right Law School / Re: St. Mary's v. Texas Wesleyan
« on: March 05, 2005, 01:26:27 PM »
The St. Mary's Law Journal is ranked fourth in the nation in terms of the amount of times courts have cited to it.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Anybody read One L?
« on: March 05, 2005, 09:54:18 AM »
I liked One-L. It's a classic. Its tone may be a little distorted in places, but that image he conjures of facing "his enemy" has a lot of truth in it. The competition in law school does bring out both the best and worst in a person.

I liked this part, his description of the night before his first exam--Torts.

"At one-thirty, wild now with drugs and frustration, I rolled out and began to flail at the mattress: I was trying to destroy myself, I shouted; I was insuring failure... . At around six-thirty Annette came in to dress for school and I woke to her stirrings.  She kissed me good-bye and wished me good luck and then I got up.  I felt horrible.  I'd had about three hours' sleep and now the sedatives had taken hold. I was cloudy and numb. My eyes ached and itched as if I'd tucked brambles under each lid. I poured five or six cups of coffee into myself, then, at eight, set off for school... I thought vaguely that I was doomed."  Scott Turow, One-L, 174-75 (Warner Books 1988)(1977).

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: St. Mary's v. Texas Wesleyan
« on: March 05, 2005, 07:23:03 AM »
Well, for what it is worth (and I'm no expert) it does seem as though all the lawschools have their pick of applicants this year. With the economy in its current state, more and more people are going back to some form of higher education. It's just the law of supply and demand. In another year or two, if the economy soars like it did in the 1990s, the schools may find themselves in a mode (where they were in 1996, 97, 98, 99, and 2000) quickly accepting students that they had to reject this year. It's just kind of crazy like that.  So, if you decide to wait, it does not mean that you will never go to lawschool.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Middle ground for Pre-1L Prep
« on: March 04, 2005, 07:34:54 PM »
You were asking about someone who took the course. I took part of it, but I did not take the entire week-long program, so I may not be the best person to discuss the whole course. I was sort of undecided about it, so I just called them up and said I wanted to come for just one day--for the session on exam taking. They were fine with that. I think I paid about $200 or something. I seem to remember it was pretty standard for them to allow people to go for three days of the program for a reduced rate, but I negotiated with them for just one day. I thought it was a pretty good course.  They had a presenter who talked about supplements, schedules, briefing, and a lot of the first-year stuff. Then they gave you books with cases in them, and you went to lectures from law professors that were meant to give you the feel of the classroom, the terror of the socratic method, etc. It was a decent simulation of what lawschool is like. The exam writing seminar went over IRAC and issue spotting and I used some of the techniques later on. Overall, they did a good job.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: St. Mary's v. Texas Wesleyan
« on: March 04, 2005, 06:29:54 PM »
Yes, I saw where you wrote about that on another post. I'm sorry to hear that, but as I wrote, I don't work for them and have nothing to do with their admissions process.

That being said, aren't you still pending at other schools? How is that going?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: St. Mary's v. Texas Wesleyan
« on: March 04, 2005, 06:01:58 PM »
St. Mary’s is a GREAT law school.

St. Mary’s has an outstanding list of accomplished professors, such as

Professor Leopold (author of the Texas Practice Series on Marital Property--the Texas Practice Series is a key resource series for all attorneys found in every major law library);

Professor Beyer (author of the Wills, Trusts, and Estates, The Examples and Explanations book on the subject used by law students all over the United States, as well as Wills, the Sum and Substance audiotapes, and a Barbri lecturer for all Texas applicants to the Texas State Bar, and countless law review articles);

Professor Schuleter (author: Texas Evidentiary Foundations, and the Texas Rules of Evidence Manual and the Texas Rules of Evidence handbook); and

Professor Cantu (author of chapters in the Edgar and Sales Texas Torts and Remedies practice guide and many law review articles)

Some tenured professors at St.Mary's also teach classes at UT Austin for the UT Austin students such as Richard Flint who has taught Oil and Gas for UT Austin Law.

The list goes on. St. Mary’s graduates are represented on the Texas Supreme Court, many appellate courts, and district courts. Senator Cornyn is a St. Mary’s law school graduate.  It’s a great lawschool with a proud history. The dip in the bar passage rate mentioned above lasted several years, but after changes in management, St. Mary’s now has an eighty percent bar passage rate, about four points lower than Texas Tech and above that of South Texas, Texas Wesleyan and Texas Southern. The results for the July 2004 Bar show the first-time taker Texas bar passage rates as follows: 1) UT Austin 92.04%  2) Baylor 91.92% 3) SMU 87.84% 4) UH 85.65% 5) Texas Tech 83.95% 6) St. Mary's 79.87% 7) South Texas 69.6% (8 Wesleyan 62.6% 9) Texas Southern 52.43% .
St. Mary's has been a top-notch program for decades. For example, from 1980 until 1989, it was in the top three of Texas Law Schools in terms of bar passage rate five of the 10 July bar examinations. As a result of its long history, its reputation reaches far and wide.

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