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Studying for the LSAT / Re: ? for those who canceled
« on: October 09, 2007, 12:48:36 AM »
Didn't it drive you nuts not knowing what your score was?  I wouldn't even consider canceling because it would drive me to the brink of insanity never knowing exactly how I did.  Am I weird or is the need for score-preservation just outweighing your insane curiosity?

I was reading through all of the threads of people who canceled.  It seemed to me like there were a fair amount of people who canceled this time.  Also, does anyone know how many people normally cancel their test each time?  Does the LSAC make that information public?

I'm surprisingly not manic about having canceled (as I thought I would be, lol).  I almost always finish all the questions in time, but on the real thing I missed about 5 or 6 on LRs and bombed the whole last game (due to timing).  No way I could've scored anywhere near my range, so canceling was the only option.

Plus I think if I got something like 163-165, even after 2 months of heavy study, I'd be crushed and way less motivated to study for the next one.  At least now I know I wasn't doing my best and have the confidence (as misplaced as it may be) that my previous efforts weren't completely futile ;D.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Lowest acceptable score?
« on: October 09, 2007, 12:40:03 AM »
I cancelled already, lol, so this question is moot for me.  But I would've taken it again if I was lower than 170.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Anyone else cancelled his/her score?
« on: October 09, 2007, 12:15:29 AM »
Are you sure that you're correctly assessing yourself, especially with respect to "answer everything, get 6-7 questions wrong"?  There's a big gap between being able to do that, and having to guess on 6 LR questions.  Maybe you weren't testing yourself under true testing conditions. 

Pretty much -- a vast majority of my preptests (timed/full + 1 "exp" section) were 171-174.  The newer tests (2004 onwards) threw me on a loop and I got a couple of 165s, but for the most part stayed within that range.

Preptest scores only matter so much though, heh -- Sept07 proved I have *wayyy* more I need to work on.  (Taking a month-long break, but am doing a per-test dissection question by question starting from Prep 7 onwards, starting November.)

I think another reason was that I was more careful about this one.  During preptests I just go through the test without thinking twice, but this time I was double-checking things to make sure I got the right answer, wasn't misbubbling, etc.  I think that's where the lack of time killed me.  (Especially on LG!!  I normally would've just blazed through that first linear, but damn if I didn't double-check everything to make sure it was correct.  sigh)

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And yep, you're young.  It's not the end of the world.  Just the start!

That's what I'm telling myself  ;).  I guess one upside (downside?) to all this -- I'll be on LSD for yet another year!

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Studying for the LSAT / Anyone else cancelled his/her score?
« on: October 08, 2007, 11:44:00 PM »
I cancelled mine right after the test.

Every single timed preptest I've taken has been: answer everything, get 6-7 questions wrong.  A bit more, a bit less.  But all hinging on the fact that I get through everything and just miss stupid questions along the way.

During the actual test I totally felt out of it, couldn't sleep the night before/was nauseous during the exam (I think it's cause I hadn't been eating properly the few days before), couldn't concentrate properly, and completely guessed -- as in bubbled blindly -- on 6 LR questions (that's down to 174, max).  The last game I completely just blazed through and missed the last 4 problems (I'd never not finished a game section before! >:().  With my normal 6-7 wrong, I would've been *very* lucky to break 170.  And I don't want to hinge my entire law school prospects on luck -- I think, realistically, I was looking more at 163-165.

Was depressed for about a day, then I realized I'm still young, still very much enjoy the job I have now, have plenty of time, and instead of rushing off the rest of my application (LORs, essays, none of which I'd done) between now and November I have a full year to work on it and a full 9 months to prep for the next test (am taking it in June).  I also know I hadn't prepped to my full 100% -- was still missing stupid questions the week before the test, time-suckers still bogging me down, had 15 or so more preptests I hadn't done.  So maybe it's all for the better?

Anyway, how'd the rest of you guys do?  Anyone else cancel?

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Good luck tomorrow!!!
« on: September 29, 2007, 06:32:49 AM »
This is a bit late (and you're all probably on your way to the test centers; if not, GET TO IT!!), but good luck everyone!

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: September LSAT takers....how are you feeling?
« on: September 28, 2007, 06:14:59 AM »
Just want to get this over with.

I'm done studying...can't cram anything more in my head at this point.  Just doing some section by section LRs for practice, but really can't do any more full tests until the real thing.  (And I figure -- bombing a preptest 2 days before the exam is NOT the best way to go in there.)  (Also, I'm one to always prep for the worst case scenario, which at this point would be taking it again in June -- I'm saving a few preptests for that, since the benefits I'll gain from them at this point are far outweighed by the benefits I'd gain from them in June in case I have to take the mother f-in test again)

Just need to repeat my LR performance from the Dec 05 ptest on the real thing...then f$%# this all to hell, I'm burning all my xeroxed preptests and starting a bonfire

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Ok, so I'm going to:

- Do some jogging at 6 pm
- Get some dinner
- Take a nice, warm bath
- Sleep at 8
- Wake up at 4:30

At 4:30:

- COFFEE
- Do some running
- Take a nice, warm shower
- Get some light food
- COFFEE
- Do practice sudokus or that Brain Age thing game for the DS) to wake my head up; otherwise do some practice LGs/LRs

Hope that works...

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Mistakes on easy questions
« on: September 27, 2007, 01:56:01 AM »
I have developed a pattern in logical reasoning that is destroying my score. On my last few tests I am getting around 5 of the easy questions (first 10) wrong and then 2-3 wrong on the rest of the difficult qeuestions. I am also changing my answers on the difficult questions from right to wrong when I have extra time left. Today I changed 2 out of the 3 hard questions from right to wrong and on my last test I did the same but it was more extreme, something like 5. These mistakes are whats keeping me from 170 and I have no tests left to practice with.

What should I do to correct this problem?

Dude, I could've written that exact same post.  I got a -6 on an LR section a few preptests ago (my lowest for an LR section since I started studying), and *2* of them were from the first 10.  Yipes.

I took another LR last night though, Dec 2005, and got -0.  I think I've figured it out: I'm not used to thinking in the morning.

(That sounds silly I know, but a) all my studying had been done at nights; b) all my preptests until 2 weeks ago were done at nights; c) I'd never taken a college class earlier than 9:30/10; d) my work today usually doesn't kick up until 10:30/11).

Do you think that'd apply to you as well?  Maybe you're just not used to taking tests in the morning, and the first 10 questions/first LR section maybe your head's not fully out of it yet?

Just a thought...

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To those of you getting crazy score fluctuations -- have you thought of whether it's because you've started practicing on mornings?

After getting a ridiculous -6 wrong on one LR section a few days ago (I think it was June 05), I was ready to throw it down and burn the damn thing to all hell.  But I took back to back LR sections (Dec 05) last night before bed), and score: -0.

For me I think I've figured it out...I am not used to using my brain in the morning, let alone using it for high-level logic LSAT stuff.  I think it partially explains the crazy scores -- all my preptests up to this point had been done after work (at night), all my studying had been after work (at night), and my preptests started going down after I started doing them at 8 am in the morning.  It also probably explains why my first LR section is almost always lower than the second (and that -6 LR was my first section of the test/day).  (And throughout college I'd never had a class earlier than 9:30, let alone 8.  Further corroboration?)

Maybe you guys getting crazy scores should consider the time difference as well...

So now I guess I have a new problem -- how the f*&$ do I solve this?  I'm thinking of waking up at 4:30/5 test day, coffeeing myself up, exercising, doing a section/logic game before heading out to the test so hopefully my head's up by the time I get there.  Any suggestions?

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I've been getting -0/-1 on RC up til 2004ish, then it dropped down to -4/-5.  Now I'm back to -2/-3ish; hoping to getting it back up to my previous levels by testday (bootcamp til 2 days before for the win imo).

My advice: engage yourself in the reading, whether that means drawing lines, writing notes to yourself in the margins, etc.  That's what's made the biggest difference for me.  In previous RCs (prior to 2004) I could just breeze through the passage and answer the questions without having to refer back (unless they refer to specific lines, etc), and still usually get -0.  However with the newer ones they've definitely cranked up the difficulty, specifically with the answer choices -- more and more of them seem correct than before.

So I started engaging myself -- ie reading as if I'd read through a contract that I have to dissect for work, etc.  Underlining important words, concepts, writing small notes to myself, etc.  Note that I don't actually use these underlines and notes to refer back to when attacking the questions, but rather just to emphasize to myself subconscsciously the main points as I'm reading.  It's helped a lot -- the questions I'm missing now are mostly of the *foreheadslap* variety or cause of time constraints (damned 27-question RC sections).

Hope that helps.  Good luck -- and if you can spare me any tips for LR, feel free to offer them hehe

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