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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT/IQ Conversion Table
« on: October 27, 2004, 11:34:06 PM »
You can't realistically expect to find a way to convert between the two, there are too many confounders ...

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Franklin Pierce = 100k salary?
« on: October 27, 2004, 11:30:56 PM »

Result: median salary for graduates in private sector is \$100K

"It could mean 50% of the class unemployed."
--Well, we know that 93% of them were employed after 9 months..

"other 50% = 40% public sector at \$35K, 10% private sector"
--Isn't that kind of extreme?  To be helpful, the stipulated situation has to be, at very least, plausible, and preferably probable, if at all possible (say that ten times fast!).

I get your point about the confounders, but I find it highly unlikely that more than half of their graduates that went into the private sector had significant related experience (i.e. 10 years as engineers) and that this resulted in a ginormous (yes, I use fake words) increase in their salaries...

You know.. Occam's Razor and all that..

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Difficult LR question
« on: October 27, 2004, 11:15:44 PM »
I think a lot of the wrong answers were due to people confusing this (an assumption question) with a strengthen question...

An assumption is something that 1) must be true for the argument to follow logically, and 2), if negatad, will DESTROY the argument.

You can use the second part to help you solve these more easily: just negate your answer choice, insert it as a premise, and see if the argument falls apart.  The only one that destroyed the argument when it was negated was E.. as explained here.

Thanks for the problem, got any more for us?

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##### Choosing the Right Law School / Should a new yorker even apply to FSU?
« on: October 27, 2004, 10:52:15 PM »
I've heard that FSU gives preference to state residents, is that true?

Will it be tougher to get in since I'm not from florida?

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Franklin Pierce = 100k salary?
« on: October 27, 2004, 10:18:12 PM »
OIC, thank you.

So, I guess IP pays pretty well huh?

I wonder how long that will last.

Yes, they use medians, but that still means more than half the students had starting salaries above 100K.. I'm pretty sure that if I go there I'll graduate in the top 50%.. I hope so anyway

I guess that will be one of my safety schools..

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Difficult LR question
« on: October 27, 2004, 10:09:15 PM »
I haven't read through the posts so I'm sorry if this post is redundant.

I'd say the answer is E, but I can only be 90% sure, because I have 90% accuracy on arguments.

Anyway, here is an explanation of why A, B, C, & D are wrong, and why E is correct.

First I just want to share two pre-phrased assumptions (either of which, if assumed, would be a sufficient answer here).. it's a pretty safe bet that the answer choice will be one of these

-- having the raw "names, addresses, and menu selections" causes more efficient direct-mail marketing

or

-- being able to "identify regular, average, and infrequent customers" causes more efficient direct-mail marketing AND only pizzerias can do this (the author never says that getting the names, etc is the ONLY way to ID customers, so you'd need BOTH of these (the AND is bolded for a reason) to be assumed, if this was in fact the author's reasoning.

Now.. these are the two assumptions we're looking for.. if we can find this in any answer choice -- and sure enough we do, in E -- then we've found the right answer.

So.. that is the first step (pre-phrasing the answer).. now here's why E is correct and the others are incorrect:

A. Restaurants other than pizzerias cannot easily identify regular, average, and infrequent customers.
This is tempting at first, but when choice A on a question 21 is tempting, be very very careful for nasty tricks.  What happens if we negate this?  Does the argument fall apart?  Only if WE assumie that being able to ID customers is what makes you more efficient.  Who told you to go making extra assumptions?  Sorry, can't choose this one.

B. For restaurants, utilizing direct-mail marketing requires the names, addresses, and menu selections of at least some customers.
I don't think this is correct because the conclusion says "more effectively," but if choice B is assumed, then the other restaurants don't utilize direct marketing AT ALL, and so there can be no comparison of their effectiveness (is that even a word?).

C. For restaurants, the identification of regular, average, and infrequent customers generally involves recording the names, addresses, and menu selections of at least some customers.
How does this really affect the conclusion?  We already have a premise that states that other restaurants don't do this at all, and it leaves the door open for other methods.  Don't choose this one.. please?

D. Utilizing direct-mail marketing is rarely beneficial for restaurants that cannot identify regular, average, and infrequent customers.
"Almost tricked me!"  This is a tempting one too, but who said that other restaurants "cannot identify regular, average, and infrequent customers?"  Even the author of the argument didn't go that far.  If you simply add this (as a premise) to the author's argument, the argument still has a huge flaw: it hasn't been established that the pizzaria's method of identifying "regular, average, and infrequent customers" is the ONLY method.

E. Restaurants that routinely record names, addresses, and menu selections of their customers always utilize direct-mail marketing more effectively than do any other restaurants.
"Please let me choose this one!"  What happens when we make this the third sentence in the paragraph?  Does the conclusion follow logically?  I think so.  What happens when we negate it (negate an assumption and the argument will fall apart)?  "Restaurants that routinely record names, addresses, and menu selections of their customers never utilize direct-mail marketing more effectively than do any other restaurants."  Wow, that really tears the argument apart, doesn't it?
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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Franklin Pierce = 100k salary?
« on: October 27, 2004, 09:35:16 PM »
Please forgive my ignorance but.. what does IP heavy mean?

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Franklin Pierce = 100k salary?
« on: October 27, 2004, 12:38:09 PM »
Oops.. wrong forum

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Franklin Pierce = 100k salary?
« on: October 27, 2004, 12:36:53 PM »
http://www.ilrg.com/rankings/law/view.php/30

What the heck is going on here?

Franklin Pierce Law Center

LSAT Score (25th-75th percentile)     146-154
GPA Range (25th-75th percentile)     2.75-3.41

Full-Time Starting Salaries    2001
Private Sector:    \$100,000
Public Sector    \$35,000

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Help me with this LSAT question
« on: October 27, 2004, 12:34:01 PM »
You're right, it would make more sense if either he was a "perfect" golfer, or there was a premise or assumption that being an outstanding golfer requires his 'never swinging and missing the ball.'

Really the crux of this is how we define "outstanding golfer."

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