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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Am I a racist?!
« on: June 10, 2004, 01:17:20 PM »
I agree with Todd as well. I've even asked Nola to not make attacks and such, and thought we had come to an agreement on that, but he persists. Nola, following me around from thread to thread, attacking me unprovoked (like the Howard post you deleted, which I did report to the moderator), is close to cyberstalking, both a crime and a tort. I can contact the police, and sue, but instead, I'm giving you a heads up. Stop starting fights and attacks, against me or anyone else. But you're grown. You can do what you want, and I can't tell you what to do.

Lavia
"The Love Board" ??????  I would love to get into this discussion, but there is no love.  In fact, there is a lot of discord.  This country has a long way to go which, one thing learned from this board.  A hint on how to improve relations, respond without sarcasm.

Good insight todd - sarcasm seems to be this womanís forte. Thank you.

Lavia, you have some serious problems.  That is all I wanted to read. Thank you. Personal attack! :D :D  omfg! My post are the word of g-d himself compared to some of things that come out of your potty mouth. Lets see ... Lavia has called me an idiot, a-hole, stupid, moron, genius (sarcasm of course), shithead, I could go on and on. Seriously, are you off your medication?

I asked nicely once, now I will ask you again; please just stop this. You know what you are doing is called libel? He-man can sue! >:(

You realize if you contact the FBI cybercrime unit, you will incriminate yourself and your friend ladyday whom asked YOU for my name and address so you both could come to my HOUSE and cause me physical HARM (castration)? That was kinda weird.

Okay, I am officially done with this site now... it has become a threat to my bodily integrity.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Am I a racist?!
« on: June 10, 2004, 03:11:11 AM »
"The Love Board" ??????  I would love to get into this discussion, but there is no love.  In fact, there is a lot of discord.  This country has a long way to go which, one thing learned from this board.  A hint on how to improve relations, respond without sarcasm.

Good insight todd - sarcasm seems to be this womanís forte. Thank you.

Lavia, you have some serious problems.  That is all I wanted to read. Thank you. Personal attack! :D :D  omfg! My post are the word of g-d himself compared to some of things that come out of your potty mouth. Lets see ... Lavia has called me an idiot, a-hole, stupid, moron, genius (sarcasm of course), shithead, I could go on and on. Seriously, are you off your medication?

I asked nicely once, now I will ask you again; please just stop this. You know what you are doing is called libel? He-man can sue! >:(

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Law School Applications / Re: women in law
« on: June 09, 2004, 04:23:21 PM »
I think all women belong in the kitchen with an apron on. Unless they're in the hospital poppin one outta the oven.

 :D :D :D

Will you marry me Jewlo?

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You mock Jeremy for insulting a group of people, referring to it as "ignorance."  However, you all are also insulting a group of people without any true knowledge. 

I was just referring to the idea of spreading democracy in an area of the world that has never been democratic, among people who have deeply seeded religious ideologies which inherently conflict with fundamental democratic principles. Does that mean we must spread Christianity over there too Jeremy? Save some souls?

As for living in the south (LA), is 4 years enough? Oh yeah and some time in MS. I fully agree with chosen about the southern hospitality. People in the south are probably the nicest people I have ever met (coming from California). Also there are plenty of tolerant people, so generalizing these far right political ideologies and racist attitudes is, of course, quite ignorant. That said, in Louisiana I heard the word n*gger thrown around more than I ever had before moving down there.  I had to have some heated discussions with southerners about why it isn't appropriate to use that word. Of course the majority of the people I met in the south were not like this, just a few. Then again, its all about who you choose to hang out with right?

And as Chris Rock says, "You Romanian CRACKA!"

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Jeremy has also shared with the world his very enlightened view on Islam:

"This is by far no religion of peace, but an evil force created by Satan himself to destroy God's people.  These people have been raised around destruction, hate and death.  It has been engraved in their minds the beliefs of the Koran, so there can be no talking or compromising with them.  The only way to defeat them is through war.  We must stand strong in our convictions and not back out of Iraq until the Islamic extremists are no more and democracy can reign instead of terror."

And (drumroll, please) my favorite quote from Jeremy's site:

"Be a conservationist of American freedom and democracy be voting to re-elect President George Bush."

Obviously, our friend has never heard of the PATRIOT Act.

Pure ignorance...  ::)


BTW, New Orleans seemed to be another little pocket of at least somewhat middle of the road thinking in the south. Very gay friendly & laissez faire etc. This is compared to some time I spent in Mississippi.

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Yikes!

http://news.findlaw.com/news/s/20040608/securitytorturedc.html

Question: If the government has information that there is a ticking nuclear bomb in a major city with a 2 hour fuse - and they supposedly have a person in custody who knows where it is - do we torture him to find and disarm it to save a hundred thousand lives?

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Am I a racist?!
« on: June 08, 2004, 06:29:16 AM »
Hey Labia, heres a suggestion, not as a white man to a black woman (god forbid), but as a person to another person.

I hear they are testing new treatments for 'terminal screeching harpy syndrome"

I cant find any other reason you devolve into a compleat and utter Biznatch every time someone disagrees with you than the fact that you are terminally pissed off at the world, men in general, and white men specifically.

Every time someone gives you what you ask for (an intelligent discussion) you end up mocking and insulting them, sure you start out trying to argue intelligently, but when you cant justify something with logic you resort to attacks.  We might as well fight fire with fire then.

guess if it works for you it should for us.

Hey, where have I heard that before... righting a wrong with a wrong?  hmmm I forget.


I know it is tough, but try not to sink to her level. On the bright side this whole thing has been quite entertaining. And to think, she has man trouble?  ;)

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Am I a racist?!
« on: June 08, 2004, 03:20:53 AM »
Thank you, oh wise white man.
You have enlightened me.
I have woken up! You have taught me many things. I was ignorant and now I free. You exposed me to a viewpoint I had never heard before, nor had my parents, or my grandparents, or greatgrandparents. I will tell my parents this new viewpoint I was exposed to today. They will be in awe too, because this is new to them as well. We will forever be grateful to you for opening our eyes. I have been wrong to try to oppose you. You made me defend myself, and I did a poor job at it, and you put me in my place, and you taught me the right way. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hallelujah! I have been corrected. I have been shamed. I have been humbled. You the man. I will never go up against such intelligence and wisdom and righteousness again. Yada yada yada, bull, bull, bull. You the man. I went and bought those books today, and I am already starting to read them.

I am AWAKE from the slumber. You are my hero. My savior.

Okay. I'm bored now. Anybody want to have an actual intelligent discussion? I've learned my lesson. From this day forward I will NO LONGER respond to people who are trying to bait me. For that, I truly am grateful Nola. You can now slither back to your hole and wait for the next victim. I'll warn them, though.

Lavia



I am glad I could be of service!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

If you have any other questions you would like me to answer, feel free to ask.




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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Am I a racist?!
« on: June 07, 2004, 11:33:29 PM »
Quoting Nola in italics:

Protective mechanism? Well if you are planning on only interacting with people of the black race, then fine, go ahead and paint yourself into a corner. If you want to enter the real world where people of all races interact, then you better get used to talking to white people. Like it or not, I think what you typed was both prejudiced and racist.

Okay, you said that what I typed was both predjudiced and racist. What definitions are you using? What makes you say that they are predjudiced and racist? It doesn't matter whether or not I like what you say. I'd like to know WHY you think that. Again, though, I never said I wasn't predjudiced. I never said I thought predjudices were bad. I think we all are!

And as far as painting myself into a corner, you might not have noticed that I was discussing undergrad mostly, and I talked about avoiding specific conversations.

I have noticed that your are imputing so much negative sentiment into what "white posters" have been typing. You might have run into some jerks who happen to be white, but this gives you no right to generalize this to the entire white race. Would it be acceptable for my friend, who nearly had his head bashed in, to decide to hate all blacks and refrain from conversing with them? I think not.

I see no reason he shouldn't refrain from conversing with Blacks. He can hate us too. Why not? By the way, I didn't say I hated whites at all. I just don't like wasting my time in a discussion when all that comes out of it is...well...nothing. You aren't trying to inform me or enlighten me, or show me a different point of view. You're just judging what I say. I read what the other site's people were saying, and they were exchanging ideas, explaining where they were coming from. I didn't mean to imply that I thought someone is bad or wrong for having biases and predjudices. If I did, I made a mistake. I think the system of racism is bad, though. Just as I think the system of sexism is bad. I think I and your friend have every right to generalize. Now, if he or I went out and started bashing the opposing race physically, or denying them jobs, etc., then that would be bad. But I really think we all have a right to our opinions and feelings.

And, if you noticed my age, I have definitely entered and been in the "real" world interacting with white people. I went to a major university. I never said I didn't interact with them. I said "on a regular basis." The context I was talking about was similar to this forum. That is, I didn't interact with them as far as discussions of this nature. And I'm glad. I'd have been one angry female dog, and stressed out! A few white people are even my friends. A few aren't. Same for Black people. Some are my friends, and some aren't. I have predjudices against Black people too! And people who eat veal. And people who don't.

Is this solving anything? No. Was it interesting if not provocative? I think yes. I will leave you with a few more books that you might consider reading. We can all benefit from learning about other viewpoints in this very heated topic eh? If you have any sociological books you think I should take a look at, feel free to list them. And Ladyday, if you are still reading this deep into this thread, that was quite an intelligent response to my question! Thankfully, others chose to actually think about it a bit.

Thanks for the book suggestions!

Here are a few questions, and I would really be interested in reading your responses.

1. Which definition of racism are you referring to here? And what in my statement do you think is racist orpredjudiced? Do you think it's wrong or bad or whatever to have biases and predjudices as thoughts/feelings, as long as you aren't out attacking people as a result?

Also, I think it's natural and acceptable to generalize. That's how a lot of people get through things more easily. The world is complex, so generalizations and categories make things simpler. Of course I recognize that we're all humans, but I also recognize the cultural differences, and I understand that many of us were taught biases (by the media, friends, and family). I realize that whites in general have a different experience in life than do Blacks or other races. And that women have different experiences than men. And that makes us different, and makes us react differently, and feel differently, and that's okay.

I have no problem with the original poster not dating hispanics. I generally don't date whites as a matter of choice. I haven't dated an asian, but that's just because the choice was never there. Would I date a white guy again? Maybe. Depends on who he is. But I know that in general I wouldn't, because our life experiences are just too different. I know there are exceptions.

2. Wouldn't you call it a waste if you thought my intent was just to be nasty, and you felt I hadn't read one thing about sociology? And would you want to keep doing that to yourself, especially if it just made you angry?

3. Please notice, also, that I'm not asking you to like or not like what I say. I just wanted to discuss. We can disagree, and that's fine too. I would like to know what makes you disagree, and I like telling why I disagree (or agree).

4. Do you really think most people aren't predjudiced or biased against other people?
Lavia

1. Merriam Webster

racist::: racial prejudice or discrimination


prejudice::: preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics


Do we have these? Sure. Are they reasonable to have when trying to hold a discussion? No. Remove bias, use facts, etc.

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I suppose, but your thoughts were incorrect, remember?


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I know we disagree, trust me! Don't you think that by me questioning your unwarranted assumptions, thus leading you to defend them, I am in fact exposing you to a different view (my own)? Hmm, if we can't agree on that then perhaps we should just quit now.

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Yes. Is it logical for discussions? No. One must attempt to restrain prejudices while having discussions. Removal of ones bias is the key to impartiality. Sure we all have feelings about certain things. The key is to provide facts to back up ones statements. As I typed that last line, I realized since we arenít do that, this is just pointless. Just read the books I suggested please and wake yourself from (what I THINK is) your slumber. ;)

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LSAC and LSDAS / Re: LSAT results
« on: June 07, 2004, 10:10:03 PM »
I took the December 2003 test, and they emailed the results on New Year's Eve at around 11pm. Good stuff.

What the hell were you doing checking your email on New Years eve? ???

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