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General Off-Topic Board / Re: random discussion....pharmacist's right to refuse filling prescriptions
« on: May 05, 2005, 07:17:29 PM »
Laneswerver and Nizzy nailed it.
good job guys.  There is obviously no contradiction and XYZ knows it.

As for the pharm vs. owner it only plays out two ways.

I'm the owner so I:
   a. don't stock the drug b/c i don't want to sell it
   b. stock the drug and if my pharm refuses to sell it i fire him for insubordination
   c. stock the drug and allow my pharms to make their own decisions (bad business practice)

or

I'm just a pharmacist that works for someone else so I:
   a.  Do what my boss says or i get fired.
   b.  that's it.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: random discussion....pharmacist's right to refuse filling prescriptions
« on: May 05, 2005, 01:20:14 PM »
Quote from: XYZZY link=topic=32747.msg517095#msg517095 date=1115302913
FYI: Per your request.

[i
-- When the pharmacist fails to fill the script the owner of the store will/can fire him for it immediately.  That is the job of the business owner NOT the government.[/i]

Wrong, the license is from the state, so it is within the domain of the government.  In fact the pharmacist holds an ethical duty to uphold the state license requirements despite the business owner's policies.

So for this point, you're 100% dead wrong.


Now I will answer the relevant question:
"Should there be a law that requires pharmacist to fill a every script that comes in the door"

Nope, go back and read post #1.   None of this is relevant.  It's an out of scope straw man that has little to do with the OP scope.

see above for a great response, thanks Laneswerver!

Now for the other point.   This is not out of scope, it just answers the larger question and if you read the entire post you would understand that.  If you cannont force a phamacist to stock everything then you cannont make him sell something he does not have.  If it is in stock and the pharmacist is not the owner then the pharmacist is completely within his rights to not fill the script for ANY REASON! (per state law) religious or not, and the owner is completely within his/her rights to fire that employee.  How can you not understand how they are linked?

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: random discussion....pharmacist's right to refuse filling prescriptions
« on: May 05, 2005, 08:11:21 AM »
XYZZY, you seem the be the main proponent of your position on this board but you offer nothing more than name calling and other personal attacks against pharmacist and people of religious faith to back yourself up.

hilljack is absolutely right, the argument is based on capitalistic freedom (good job, i couldn't have said it better).  :)
If you had read my previous post you might have realized that.  But your response to my point by point dismantling of your position was to call pharmacist pill counters.  great argument there!

Try this (b/c i like heated discussions not mindless attacks) go down my list and point out where/how i am wrong.  and please do so without any name calling and also notice that i did not once mention religion b/c that is not the issue!

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: random discussion....pharmacist's right to refuse filling prescriptions
« on: May 03, 2005, 08:22:24 AM »
Quote from: cascagrossa on May 02, 2005, 12:58:33 PM
FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS HYPOTHETICAL ASSUME THAT THE REASON FOR NOT FILLING THE PRESCRIPTION IS THE PHARMACISTS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, NOT THAT THE DRUG IS NOT IN STOCK.

I will answer your hypo.
-- When the pharmacist fails to fill the script the owner of the store will/can fire him for it immediately.  That is the job of the business owner NOT the government.

Now I will answer the relevant question:
"Should there be a law that requires pharmacist to fill a every script that comes in the door"
   a. No see above
   b. No b/c they may not have it in stock (& you cannot force them to stock every drug)
   c. No b/c it may be medically unsafe
   d. (RX is in stock and is medically safe) No b/c IT IS THE JOB OF THE BUSINESS OWENER NOT THE GOVERNMENT TO                       DETERMINE HOW TO RUN HIS/HER BUSINESS!!!
   e. (but what if it’s the business owner who refuses to fill the script?) No b/c the business owner will in this case simply refuse to stock that item.  See "b"
   f. (but I really, really need that drug!) Your need does not trump my right to free enterprise. Go somewhere else.
   g. (but what if there is no where else to go)  that situation simply does not exist, and if it does you cannot reconcile it against answers "b" "c" & "e"   If you need it and I don't have it what can I do for you?  How can you force me to carry it?  How can you force me to carry it even if there is no one else who does?

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: random discussion....pharmacist's right to refuse filling prescriptions
« on: May 02, 2005, 09:19:53 AM »
the pharmacist can sell whatever the hell he wants to.  if he works for someone else then that someone else may fire him for it, but that is up to the owner.  If on the other hand the pharmacist is the owner then no one can force him to sell any drug b/c you can't force him to carry every drug.

Also, we are forgetting that many drugs can now be purchased online.



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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: No BSing...whats your score?
« on: April 28, 2005, 08:53:22 AM »
Quote from: Alamss on April 27, 2005, 11:35:48 PM
O%, 38% and then 100%

damn "0%"!  well like the LSAT you can get better!

100% = I am the MASTER!

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: future solo/small firm lawyer-wannabes board
« on: April 28, 2005, 08:49:47 AM »
My mother and her father have a firm that i may very well go back to.
It's a small general practice firm but like you say the hours are good and
they make good money...so count me in.

unless i finish top of my class and get some big offers...you know, the ones that
are to good to turn down.

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Law School Applications / Re: WTF is the point of rolling admissions?
« on: April 22, 2005, 08:26:32 AM »
Quote from: St. Shaun on April 21, 2005, 10:15:29 PM
Would you rather be rejected in December, or admitted in March?

hey...accepted in December was not a choice....not fair.   :P

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Law School Applications / Re: --Removed--
« on: April 21, 2005, 09:14:11 AM »

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Most Embarrassing Song on Your iPod/MP3/etc.
« on: April 20, 2005, 01:53:48 PM »
I have aquarius on my laptop as well!

I don't know why i have it but i do...and no i don't think i have ever paid for a song... :(

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