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Akron / Just Got Accepted...
« on: November 24, 2004, 09:51:40 AM »
Hey, I just got accepted here, anyone know anything?

Book sales, auctions, trades, etc. / PLS/Casebook Sale!
« on: June 08, 2006, 09:10:44 PM »
I'm selling a whole bunch of my old law books on ebay - casebooks, briefs, and most of the books recomended in Planet Law School.  Here's the link to my ebay auctions:  Let me know if you have any questions!

Totally get a visa.  It's worth it.  You can bring back a box of cigars and some rum if you get a visa.

Cuba's awesome.  That is some of the most beautiful water I've ever seen...and ah, the mojitos!

Where should I go next fall? / Re: UF or UTK?
« on: March 29, 2005, 10:41:17 AM »
I'm a she, thanks.

I have family in the Knoxville area, so I know it's not exactly "progressive"--but I'm from South Carolina, so I know it can't be worse than that!

I haven't ever been to Gainesville, but from my understanding, Knoxvile's bigger.  Bigger = more jobs, right?

Law School Applications / Re: Still Pending at Georgia...
« on: March 29, 2005, 10:29:40 AM »
Now I'm not sure if I'm going to do UTK or UF.  At the moment, I'm leaning toward UTK, but that'll change by lunch.  :P

I'm gonna try and schedule a visit at UF, and hopefully that will help make up my mind.  I'd be starting in January at Florida, and that would definitely have its advantages.

Law School Applications / Still Pending at Georgia...
« on: March 29, 2005, 10:21:26 AM »
When will UGA make up its mind?  They're the only school I haven't heard from yet, and it's driving me crazy!

Where should I go next fall? / UF or UTK?
« on: March 29, 2005, 10:06:52 AM »
Ok guys, I know I took a very extended hiatus, but I'm back, and with questions.

I haven't heard from UGA yet, but if I get in, they're obviously my top choice.

I was just accepted into the University of Florida's Spring 2006 admissions program.  I've been planning on going to the University of Tennessee, barring any good news from UF or UGA.  Now, I'm not really sure what to do.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I should go?

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Saying NO to biglaw, alternatives?
« on: February 03, 2005, 01:36:15 PM »

While I agree with you that debt load is a major consideration both in choosing a school and in choosing a career after graduation and bar passage, I don't think it is reasonable to portray the alternatives to BIGLAW as ones that only pay $60,000 per year a full *decade* after graduation. To me, that seems unreasonably low for any lawyer with a shred of ambition and a modicum of competence.

The average starting salary, for most schools, in the public sector, is around $45K.  For government jobs, it's usually a little higher, more like $50K.  Everyone doesn't end up with the higher-paying jobs.  A DA may start out making $45K--I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that 10 years later, in the same job, he's not going to be making that much more.  A raise, with cost of living increases, just doesn't bump you up that much. 

The average starting salaries in the private sector are so high because of BIGLAW.  If 20 people out of a graduating class of 200 are making over $125K to start (that's probably overly generous), then of course the average salary's going to be higher, even if the majority of your class is making $50K at a small firm.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Saying NO to biglaw, alternatives?
« on: February 03, 2005, 11:57:32 AM »
I think you guys are forgetting something.  Unless you're going to law school for free (and congrats if you are), you're going to be in some serious debt.  Figure tuition is $20K a year (low for most T1 and private schools).  That's $60K just to pay for school.  You've gotta live, say you have a roommate, and are paying $500/month for your apartment.  That's $18K, for three years, for a roof over your head.  You're already up to $78K.  You've gotta buy books--say $1000 a semester?  That's another $6K.  That's $84K.  And you haven't bought groceries, or clothes, or anything fun...let's say you need about $10K for those "extras" every year.  I'm assuming a nice suit, expenses for interviews, etc.  That's now $114K.  That's a lot of debt.

Not including interest, let's say you want to pay off your debt in 10 years.  You're paying $950/month--that's if you don't have any undergrad loans.  Let's assume you're making $100K.  After taxes, 401K, etc., that's looking more like $55K or maybe $60K take home.  Divide that by 12.  That's $5K a month. After your loans, that's $4K a month.  Take out rent--you're probably living in a city if you're making that much to start, even in BIGLAW--so that's around $1K.  That leaves you $3K for bills, etc.

It doesnt' look so bad if you're working current take home is around $1300/month, and with my husband's salary, we don't do too bad.  But what if you start out making substantially less?  It doesn't matter if you're giong to be making $100K in 15 years if for that first ten you're only making $40K or $60K.  You won't be able to pay off your loans.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: UGA
« on: February 03, 2005, 11:22:10 AM »
what are your stats, georgialax?

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