Quote from: A_guy on October 29, 2004, 05:14:13 PM

Yes, I am saying Affirmative Action is unfair to individual non-minorities. I am also saying Affirmative Action is unfair to individual minorities like Marcus Cole who wish to be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

Your fallacy above is a direct result of thinking in terms of collectives and not in terms individuals. It is true that non-minorities are in the majority. That follows from the very definition of the terms. But that does not mean it is right or fair to deny individuals the opportunities they earned on account of their merit merely because they were born with the wrong skin color.

but society has and still does think in terms of collectives.  its ok to think in terms of collectives when u exclude groups, or disenfranchise them as long as they aren't ur group.  but when there is a PERCEPTION that you group isn't being treated fairly, and this unfairness is simply b/c of the collective group, you want to be judged as an individula.  no has denied u anything.  again u r blaming AA and minorities but what about the white guy that took YOUR seat.  it is more likely that another white person was grant admission over.  don't u think if ur app was better than anyone else be they whit, black, asian, or whatever u would have gotten in?  look at the picture man, no one could take YOUR seat if u had what it took to get it in the firts place.