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Studying for the LSAT / The admissions matrix
« on: October 05, 2004, 06:03:31 PM »
Somewhere on this site, when I was lurking, I saw a link to another site that showed admissions graphs for each law school based on UGPA and LSAT. It was NOT the LASC one. Does anyone know about this??  It was really interesting.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: You guys are freaking me out
« on: October 05, 2004, 02:30:34 PM »
No, I said I would be LUCKY to get a 165-168. There is no way, based on my LG performance I am breaking 170. Mathematically impossible. I think I did OK on the first two, but started running out of time and chose to do the 4th game rather than the third. I bubbled in all Ds on the third one and wouldn't you know it, based on what I've read, there were no Ds (or Bs).  I couldn't diagram the 4th one correctly, but I think I ended up being able to make a couple of inferences that might have been correct, but I was pretty flustered by that point, so who knows. In order to even get a 165-168, I will have to have been practically perfect on the other sections.  Sometimes I'm close in practice tests, but I've never been completely perfect.  And, let's face it, the nerve factor can either be a help or a hindrance.  So bottom line, I have no idea!!!!  I know what I'm NOT getting and that's about all. 

Same situation.  You retaking?

I don't think so.  I felt pretty good about my LR and RC and the fact that there were only 22 LG questions helps me.  If I got thrown a couple games that I just couldn't get (which is possible), I'd be in worse shape.  My first practice test, I got 4 correct! (Dec. 99)  That said, I'm sure I could improve my time, etc. but I'm not sure it's a guaranteed improvement. What if the gains I make in games are outweighed by the fact that I miss a few more over the rest of the test? Also possible.  If I get my score and it's lower than a 165, I may scramble to retake it in Dec.  But if it's 165 or above, probably not.  I don't think, based on averages, I will be helped much by that.  So that's sort of my plan. Keeping my fingers crossed. This is an aptitude test. Whatever score I get is probably a fairly accurate reflection of my strengths and weaknesses, whether I want to admit it or not.  On a really good day, with the stars all in alignment, I probably could score in the high 170s, but that wouldn't be an accurate reflection of my abilities. I've had a couple practice tests out of dozens that I've missed 1 or 2 on games.  I've also had more than six or so where I've missed more than half or worse.  (But don't get me wrong, I will cry if I get under a 165. But I'll get over it)

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: You guys are freaking me out
« on: October 05, 2004, 11:56:46 AM »
No, I said I would be LUCKY to get a 165-168. There is no way, based on my LG performance I am breaking 170. Mathematically impossible. I think I did OK on the first two, but started running out of time and chose to do the 4th game rather than the third. I bubbled in all Ds on the third one and wouldn't you know it, based on what I've read, there were no Ds (or Bs).  I couldn't diagram the 4th one correctly, but I think I ended up being able to make a couple of inferences that might have been correct, but I was pretty flustered by that point, so who knows. In order to even get a 165-168, I will have to have been practically perfect on the other sections.  Sometimes I'm close in practice tests, but I've never been completely perfect.  And, let's face it, the nerve factor can either be a help or a hindrance.  So bottom line, I have no idea!!!!  I know what I'm NOT getting and that's about all. 

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: You guys are freaking me out
« on: October 05, 2004, 11:24:54 AM »
No, I'm a dork, too.  Really, you sort of have to be one to want to go to law school, don't you? And smart people generally are geeky, at least a little. As to my degree of dorkiness compared to others on the board, if I didn't have so much other stuff going on, I'd probably be doing nothing but law school prep.  It's sick when you have the LSAT raw score conversion scales memorized, which I do.  My husband thinks I've got some weird obsessive disease.  When I got home from my LSAT, I was so keyed up it was like I was on speed. He gave me a beer to calm me down and then listened to me rattle on for an hour about the test.  I tested in Boise, and there were probably only 30 people total.  There I was with eight no. 2 pencils, a beepless timer with an easel stand, a pencil sharpener, a highlighter and hard candy that I'd unwrapped and put in my pocket. (Yeah, there was some lint..) I was definitely, without a doubt, the dorkiest person in the room. I only look like I'm about 27 or 28, so I didn't stand out because of my age, only because I was  the geeky ultra-prepared one.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: You guys are freaking me out
« on: October 05, 2004, 09:50:42 AM »
Thanks.  I'm in a way different situation than most people.  I'm a senior (not uncommon) undergraduate, but I already work 60 hours a week as a newspaper editor and I'm 38. (My education was delayed by single motherhood and all the bad stuff that goes along with it).I was a civil rights investigator for a long time investigating complaints of discrimination under state and federal law. That work paralleled the work of an attorney almost identically and it's why I want to go to law school. I am hoping that my (questionable) maturity and my background is worth something, but I know I have to have at least a high enough index that I don't get dumped into the auto-reject pile.  I am actually applying to Cornell and UVA-- as well as Utah, Boulder and Idaho, where I'm a resident.  Idaho's actually not a bad school. T3, I think, suffers from underfunding, but actually has a pretty good regional reputation. Boulder and Utah are ranked higher.  Since I'm dragging my husband and 3 year old daughter along with me, I have other considerations most people don't. I'm not going to take my little girl to an urban jungle no matter how good the school is.  Thanks for the encouragement!

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Studying for the LSAT / You guys are freaking me out
« on: October 05, 2004, 09:26:22 AM »
Why is it that everyone on here seems to score so well?  (Or, I should say, anticipates scoring well...)  It's like even the people who say they suck and are considering canceling their scores are people who are likely to score in the 90th percentile and above.  I guess I understand the drive to get into a top school or get the $$$, but why is this board so top-heavy do you think?  I know you have all been talking about the other board (haven't been there), but this board can be pretty intimidating as well. Just my two cents. (And I guess I'm assuming everyone's being honest. Perhaps that's a mistake).  But I have to tell ya, I suck at games. Completely. Totally. Even after LGB and a prep class and taking every possible test imaginable. (I can diagram now and make good inferences, but I'm sloooow, thanks to a real deficit in spatial skills)  But I'm generally really good on the other sections.  So basically, I'm looking at a 165-168 if I'm LUCKY, which isn't that bad objectively, but compared to all of you I'm feeling like a real underachiever!  ;D


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Studying for the LSAT / Oct. 25 release date solid?
« on: October 04, 2004, 09:51:14 AM »
I'm a newbie, but if LSAC says it's going to release scores via email on October 25, is that a sure thing? Never earlier? Never later? And I know this doesn't really matter, but does the time of day vary?  I know, stupid questions, but now that I'm not spending all my time doing prep work, I have lots of stupid questions.  ;)

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Great, thanks.  I'm at work (I work for a newspaper Web site and I'm here trying to put all that Mt. St. Helens stuff together on a Sunday... it's been a fun weekend...) so I haven't had a chance to plow through every thread. Sorry for the duplication!

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Studying for the LSAT / What was the distribution in the games section?
« on: October 03, 2004, 12:06:04 PM »
I know there were 22 questions total, but how were those 22 questions distributed?  Anyone on the ball enough during that section to remember? (I wasn't)

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Studying for the LSAT / RC experiemental
« on: October 03, 2004, 11:52:28 AM »
Just took the Oct test yesterday.  Trying not to get depressed. I blew up on the games. Actually, I was doing fine on the first 1.5 when I looked at my timer and realized I only had 10 minutes left to get 2.5 more done! Ha. I looked at the century game, decided to skip it and answered all "D"-- there probably weren't any D answers with my luck-- and then fumbled horribly through the parking lot question. (I probably would have been better off to choose randomly) I really lost my composure. There were, like, little nuclear explosions in my head. I was lucky, though (for me) b/c my first two sections were RC. The experimental one was way easier than the actual one (of course), but I usually do well on LR and RC. However, I'll have to have close to perfection on all 3 of those sections to make up for my games debacle.  Of course, I'm feeling really great because I'm reading all these posts about how easy the games were.  I totally agree that the first one was pretty easy, as was the second, but that parking lot one was impossible for me to get under the circumstances. (I'm sure if I had a bottle of beer and no timer on my couch I would have had great fun figuring it out, but as I'm watching the timer run out on my little desk and, with it, my dream of a top school, not so fun...) However, I'm not cancelling my score. I felt pretty good (which can be deceiving) about my RC and LR sections; I honestly didn't struggle with them at all, surprisingly.    I did think the nerve passage was difficult, and there were several places in the others where I debated between two choices, but that's pretty much par for the LSAT.

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