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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Boalt matching scholarship
« on: April 19, 2005, 02:23:36 PM »
I'm still waiting for my match.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Columbia v. UVA
« on: April 18, 2005, 06:12:37 AM »
I visited UVA this Friday, and I was very impressed. UVA has tremendous facilities, incredible architecture, very relaxed and laid back student body, and excellent reputation. But I do want to practice internationally-related law, so Columbia may be a better fit for me. When I visited Columbia, I noticed that while the atmosphere in the school sucked, there were so many academic opportunities: every day, there were like 3-4 famous speakers. In addition, Columbia's name is famous all over the world.
Basically, for me it is a choice between a nice, social environment in UVA where I will feel very happy and relaxed vs. the more intense and competitive Columbia where I have no idea how I will feel. What do the others feel>

I agree with all of your observations, except the thing about the speakers -- who really has time to listen to all of these people, regardless of which law school you attend?

I'm in the same boat for the most part. In at UVA with 15k/year and waitlisted at Columbia.  I'm really trying to decide whether it's worth aggressively pursuing the Columbia waitlist.  I really like UVA, and the money is great, but Columbia seems to be a slightly better, especially for certain areas of law.  Then again, I don't see myself living in New York for a long period of time beyond law school, so UVA may be better given my DC/CA roots.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Georgetown over Yale - Am I crazy?
« on: April 18, 2005, 06:04:52 AM »
Is this actually a real post?  Or just a person trying to generate a lot of replies to a question that is frustratingly easy to answer?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UVA question
« on: April 13, 2005, 07:12:33 AM »
to be fair, NYU has a healthy conservative contingent roaming its hallways.  in fact, because the school is probably more politicized than say UVa, the coservative groups at NYU are likely more active and vocal than those at more relatively laid back and politically apathetic schools. 

Very good point.

I work for an elected Democrat, and while I don't consider myself a liberal, I don't find UVA to be conservative at all.  Sure, it's less liberal than most law schools, but that doesn't mean a whole lot.  Frankly, from a political standpoint, the mere fact that people could be turned off by UVA because of it's supposed mild conservativism helps explains why Democrats rarely win in rural areas these days.

Law School Admissions / Re: NYU - I'm confused
« on: April 11, 2005, 06:13:47 PM »
Not to freak everyone out, but I just got my waitlist letter today.  Not trying to be arrogant, but I can't help but say I was a little surprised.  (I don't know whether to feel cheated by NYU or exceptionally grateful for Columbia - which of course I do feel grateful for regardless!)  In any case, it's a good thing I fell in love with Columbia while I was there or I would be totally bummed ;D

Wow, there's no reason you should have been waitlisted, but you may very well be better off at Columbia anyway.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: An Interesting Take on Gtown
« on: April 10, 2005, 09:09:41 PM »
Why would it take 'balls', as you so elequently stated, to choose G Town over the other schools?

Aren't they all T14?

And please don't tell me it is because they are a few places off from one another on the US News list because if so I'm going to hurl

Actually, wasn't thinking of rankings at all.  Columbia is clearly better than Georgetown.  The others can be debated until you're blue in the face, but in a vacuum where U.S. News did not exist, I think most folks would probably still give Penn and Michigan a slight edge over Georgetown.

That said, you are correct -- it probably doesn't take balls to choose Georgetown over those schools, as I previously indicated.  It does, however, take confidence that you can handle a very large law school where there is added pressure to perform well academically ... because if you don't, there will be hundreds of fellow Gtown-ers in line ahead of you competing for top jobs.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UVA and Boalt
« on: April 10, 2005, 08:52:25 PM »

I'm trying to decide between UVA and Boalt.

UVA will end up being cheaper, despite Boalt's scholarship match, due to cost of living (64k at UVA vs. about 30k at Boalt, should I get the match).

I'm in the same exact boat -- deciding between Boalt and Virginia, and waiting for Boalt to match UVA's merit money.  I'm curious to see how exactly they match it -- whether they just match tuition, which considering my in-state CA status, won't take much, or if they will match overall educational cost, as they claim they will.

Regardless, it's a quite a dilemma.  Here are some random thoughts: 

-UVA is a much nicer setting.  The Bay Area is beautiful, perhaps even more so than Charlottesville, but when in Berkeley, it's not always easy to remember that. And Boalt's building is downright ugly while UVA may have the nicest physical plant of all the top law schools.
-I don't see the reputations differing significantly, although Boalt clearly has some fiscal issues to address.
-I don't know whether I want to wind up in DC or the Bay Area (I'm from CA, but live in DC).  Because of this, I give UVA an edge as UVA places better in the Bay Area than Boalt does in DC.
-Boalt is smaller and has more of a stress-free grading system, but somehow, UVA definitely has a more laid back reputation, and after visiting, I think the reputation is deserved.

Ultimately, it's difficult to find an area where Boalt is better than UVA, but it's fairly easy to find areas where UVA has a definite edge over Boalt.  That's why I'm leaning toward UVA.  Despite this, I feel very uncomfortable having to give an answer to Boalt by Friday.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: An Interesting Take on Gtown
« on: April 10, 2005, 05:08:17 PM »
I chose Gtown over Penn, Michigan and Columbia precisely because of the variety of classes gtown offered, the variety of clinical programs, and the amazing bar passage and employment stats. I have spent the past three years awed by the kind of attention that my friends got at Penn, Michigan, and Columbia, and I have been merely one more among the herds at Georgetown.

Legit or not, it would take a lot of balls to choose Georgetown over all of those schools, unless there was some overriding interest in being in DC or a lot of merit aid involved.

Some administrator menetioned xoxo in a speech at admitted students day.  He didn't say much else about it except that he has to make sure his 6 year-old can't access that site.  Oppress 'em young I guess.  Next he said he wasn't going to talk about rankings... then proceeded to name the categories (alumni approval? etc) where Virginia ranked first.  All the speeches were pure propaganda.

I hope to god that the website reference wasn't the most interesting thing you took from that whole day.  And I completely disagree that all the speeches were pure propaganda.  They brag about the stuff they're good in -- duh.  Other than that, they were very well balanced presentations.

1) Harvard.  didnt lose any spots, but lets face it, it could be #1. what is holding it back? its larger class size.  Shrink the class size,(this will help in both acceptance rate and student/faculty ratio) hire some more profs too, and send out a bunch of fee waivers to auto-rejects.

Harvard isn't number one because Yale is better in several important statistical categories.  Yale is clearly the top spot for law faculty and it has the highest yield rate for admitted students, who statistically are better than Harvard's.  How then could Harvard be #1?

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