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Current Law Students / Mandatory Attendance
« on: August 28, 2005, 09:06:29 AM »
How are various schools approaching attendance?

I was somewhat shocked to find that every course at UToledo passes an attendance sheet around every day.  The school rants about the honor system and how we need to act like responsible adults and we have an obligation to attend and do our best and not cheat and report cheating, etc. etc.  Yet they institute a grammer-school-like attendance policy that results in automatic failure of a class if you miss a certain number of classes.  In particular, Legal Writing is the most harsh with TWO allowed abscenses this semester and only ONE allowed abscense next semester (and no... your sick/skip days don't carry).  Seems that I'll be attending class with some very sick people at some point this year because it doesn't seem to be an option to stay home with the flu, pnemonia or strep-throat!

So... how are the other schools handling this subject?  Are most as hard-nosed regarding attendance?  UToledo appears to attribute (blame) the entire policy on that of the ABA.  Noting that regular attendance is prescribed by ABA rules.  However, there does seem to be an inconsistant application of that policy.  One of my courses allows 5 days missed and another 4, and another only 2.  Seems to me that the rule is arbitrary.

Don't get me wrong... I intend to attend the vast majority of my classes.  If I'm investing 100K-200K into this venture, I WANT to get something out of it.  But, what I anticipate would be a system that doesn't set artificial lines as to the number of days that can be missed.  Do we really want to encourage extremely sick people to attend class (and thus spread it to the health ones)?  Do we want to discourage students from taking advantage of opportunities to attend "law-related" conferences, interviews, or other out-of-school events?  It somehow seems wrong to put such emphasis on attendance as to threaten failure upon a relatively small number of abscenses.

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Case....
« on: May 25, 2005, 05:14:27 PM »
Finally heard back from Case today... I moved up or down or whatever from the HOLD list to the WAITLIST.  WTF!!

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Incoming 1Ls / Toledo's picnic... anyone going?
« on: May 24, 2005, 11:11:55 AM »
It looks like the University of Toledo is throwing a little admitted student picnic this Friday for the future class of 2008.
Anyone from LSD going to be attending?

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Here's my situation...

In at DePaul (commutable..long communte... from my current location) $8K/year scholarship
In at Michigan St. (requires a move to East Lansing area) 25% off tuition + free laptop
In at Toledo (requires a move to Toledo area) Full-tuition scholarship this morning!

Depaul has accepted me into their IP writing and research program... usually guarantees 1L summer paid intership.  They have strong alumni relations in Chicago.  They are ranked T3 but their IP program is ranked 9th nationally.

Michigan St. has a fairly extensive Telecommunications Law program (which is my primary area of interest).  One of the Telecom Law profs worked at the FCC.  The school is located just a few miles away from Lansing (capital of Michigan) and thus would open up opportunities for working with the state's PUC (public utilities commission) or perhaps other telecom related state agencies.  MSU is only ranked T4.
Toledo has a really low-cost-of-living.  The school has some classes in communications law and offers a certificate program in IP.  I don't think there is much of a telecom job market in or around Toledo, so it will be somewhat like studying on an island.  However, UTLAW is ranked T2.

I'm still DEFERRED, ON HOLD, and waiting to hear back from IIT Kent, Case Western, and Catholic University repectively.

Kent is commutable for me... same as DePaul but they have a better overall ranking (T2) but a lower IP ranking.  Kent's building is VERY NICE.

Case would require a move to the Cleveland area.  Their building is VERY NICE and is ranked T2.  Case has several IP classes but sadly, they lack any courses in telecommunications law.

Catholic is in DC.  It would require a move to the DC area (one of the most expensive places in the US to live).  Catholic's building is also VERY NICE and is ranked T2.  Catholic has a specific program in telecommunications law and has stong ties throughout the federal telecom industry.  Catholic requires 2 semesters of unpaid externship and allows one additional semester of paid externship.  Catholic is located very close to a subway stop and so it's easy to work downtown DC while attending Catholic.

So.... here's my take on things:
Best chance of being employed someplace non-telecom: DePaul
Best chance of being employed in Federal Telecom: Catholic
Best chance of being employed in State Telecom: Michigan State
Best chance of being debt free at graduation: Toledo
Best environment for me to learn: Michigan State or Toledo (I think that the long commutes at other schools would be disruptive to my learning and particating)
Most expensive option: Catholic
Best change of being divorced before graduation: Catholic (spouse doesn't like DC)

Any thoughts?  Sorry to dump this much info on list, but seat deposits are due in a week and Toledo threw me a curve-ball with the full tuition offer.  I'm confused and feel a bit rushed to judgement on this decision.

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Two Ding-Friday
« on: March 18, 2005, 01:13:08 PM »
It's been a joy hitting the mailbox lately... Dinged at UIUC and George Mason today... Dinged at UTexas last Friday.  I think I'll pass on picking up the mail on Friday's from now on ;-)

Oh well... I'm heading out to attend Michigan State's accepted-student weekend today.  Hopefully it will make up for the recent losses.
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Choosing the Right Law School / Deferred at Kent - Should I bother?
« on: March 10, 2005, 01:10:14 PM »
Much to my surprise/dismay I finally received word from Chicago Kent today.  I've been deferred and they are encouraging me to resubmit and be considered for the evening program.

I've already been accepted across town at DePaul.  I've received a scholarship and I've been accepted into the CIPLIT IP writing program.  Until today, I suspected that I'd see roughly the same decision/scholarship from Kent.

Now my decision is much more difficult.  In light of the deferral, I must assume that I would not qualify in for any merit scholarship at Kent.  Had all things been held equal... both schools with acceptances into the fulltime program with equal scholarships, I think I would have selected Kent based on its reputation and its facilities (Kent's building is MUCH nicer than DePaul's).
So, I guess the question that must be answered is this:

Is attending Kent part-time with no scholarship really worth that much more than attending DePaul full-time with scholarship?  To add to the weight of this decision, I have a wife and 2 kids to support... attending Kent part-time would add a year to my cost-of-law-school.  That equates to about $60,000 to $80,000 of additional expense.

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Not QUITE in at Valpo
« on: February 26, 2005, 11:46:54 AM »
This is an interesting one... I just thought I'd check and see if anyone else got one of these....

'we intend to offer you admission as soon as a seat for you becomes available.  Your status is officially known as "admissions pending", a status above the traditional wait-list category.'

I've never heard of this status before???

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / U-Toledo came-in today
« on: February 12, 2005, 07:34:31 PM »
I'm happy that I'm in, but no mention of merit dollars.  Anyone else receive an acceptance from there with scholarship money included?

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / W/L at Indiana U
« on: February 04, 2005, 02:13:01 PM »
Looks like I have the dubious distiction of being the first on LSN this year with a wait-list from IU-Bloomington.

It figures... they were my first choice.  I really liked that school, the town, the campus, the instructors, and the facilities. Grrrr....

Well, I guess that 24K from DePaul is looking better and better.

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / In at Michigan (State)
« on: January 21, 2005, 06:28:24 PM »
Second Acceptance rolled in today: MSU.  Regular envelope but no merit $$$ :(

MSU doesn't pull a very good USN&WR ranking, but they do have an extensive IP program...
I'm really interested in the school based on the curriculum, it's just going to be hard
to make a decision to pay full-tution dollars at a low ranked school. 

Oh well, I guess we'll wait out a few more school decisions... hopefully I'll get more
good news in the coming weeks.

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