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Law School Admissions / Re: Advice greatly appreciated
« on: October 04, 2004, 08:17:50 PM »
Yeah. I've done my own research and YES the LSAT counts for more the longer you are out of school in addition to what you have accomlished in your career, etc. But the LSAT is counted most and your gpa is not counted as much.

But then again EKC is proably right I didn't go to an Ivy so I must be wrong, I was probably smoking crack when I wrote this anyway with all the other commoners....

Law School Admissions / Re: favorite LSNers
« on: October 04, 2004, 01:45:49 PM »
Thanks everyone! ;D Hopefully I'll be able to get in somewhere 7-14...even if I do I might retake the LSAT in June to see if I can do better (which I think I can) to put me into a better position to transfer after a year to a better school if I have good grades. I really would like to go to a top 5 program if possible.  :'(

Again thanks to all that replied, I'd love to help any of you out as well, although you all probably know anything I know...although my knowledge of cheesy 80s films may be unmatched...


Law School Admissions / Re: favorite LSNers
« on: October 04, 2004, 12:57:02 PM »
I am also amb22 on LSN if anyone wants to check me out...

Do any of the more experience/knowledgeable members (ZAP, pookie, abs, lexy, etc) want to give me their opinion on where they think I will get in/get rejected/WL, etc...I would really appreciate it and I'll be sure to return the favor with my opinion if you like...



When they spell your name wrong but talk about how excited they are for your to apply and offer a scholarship to Ahtony...


Law School Admissions / Re: LSAT Cutoff
« on: October 03, 2004, 04:03:33 PM »
You have a great GPA from a good school so if you do well on your lsat you should be able to get into a great school. I think if you break 170 you'll be a lock anywhere except Harvard, Yale and Stanford which are hard to predict. the three best way to see where you fit in once you get your score is:

1. look at the 25/75 data on law school from publications like USNews...generally you need to be above both the 25th for lsat and gpa to have a competitive shot at a school UNLESS you are a underrepresented minority in which case your lsat (according to Montauk counts for about an extra 8-10 points)

2. Go to and look at the graphs for the schools you are considering...they'll give you a good idea of what cutoffs are and what schools generally accept/deny at

3. go to and see where you fit in, I'd say rochester is about the same level school as georgetown so your lsat will give you a good idea

but all in all, the whole application is evaluated so theres no guarantees really or exact way of prediction, these are just good guides

Yes. Any school will take that into consideration, and it bodes well for you. You may want to write an addendum explaining that first semester but either way they will see the trend on your transcript and it will help you.

With a 3.66/168 you will get into BC and BU easily in my opinion. Its much harded to predict top 14 or so but you def have a chance at some t-14 as well. Go to and look at the graphs for the schools you are considering and you will be able to see a sample of what gpa/lsats are being accepted, rejected, etc at each school. Many schools have a fairly obvious cutoff line for gpa or lsat or both...some are harder to figure out. Generally speaking if your stats are surrounded by mostly green you got a good shot, mostly red and its a small chance you'll get in. Hope this helps.



When looking at your undergrad do you beleive schools count factors such as amount of credits per semester and departmental honors highly?

I graduated with majors in Economics and Political Science and a minor in Philosophy in only three years. To do this overloaded every semester and started taking upper class course freshman year. In addition I did two research theses to gradaute with honors in both majors. Do you think they will count this stuff highly or not? I finished with a 3.61....will they count this higher than a regular 3.61 since I did a tougher load, etc. I know I could have gotten like a 3.8+ if I took a normal load and easier classes....she I put this in an addendum?



Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Predicting your admits/waitlists
« on: October 02, 2004, 12:56:17 PM »
Anyway, predictions for my 3.77/168, 4 yrs WE as a statistician, MA in psychology:

Virginia: Nope.
Berkeley: Nope.
Cornell: Nope.

I think you are underestimating yourself at these schools. From what I've looked at, including, I think you will get into all three of these. Berkeley might be more like WL/Accept/Reject but I think you won't have a problem getting into either Cornell or chin up...

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Predicting your admits/waitlists
« on: October 02, 2004, 11:27:55 AM »
Thanks for the input everyone. The reason I'm applying to so many schools is frankly because I'm scared (like abs) of applying to too few and getting screwed or unexpected rejections for whatever reason. The other reason is because if I get into lets say 3 or 4 schools I really like I can try to bargain for more money. i.e. you can tell your top choice that you want to go there but go money (if you did) from lower schools and ask your top choice for some money. It might work and to me its worth a shot so I am applying to a lot of schools to see what happens.

I think in general unless you are lower than a schools 25 percent on both gpa and lsat or higher on both for the 75 percentile you can't really say with too much certainty what will happen because so many other factors come into play. and at schools like Harvard, Stanford and especially Yale these considerations are given more weight so there really are no guarantees. I figure this is the one time I will be applying so I'm trying all the top 15 (except Northwester because they require work experience, look at their website) so I don't have any regrets.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Predicting your admits/waitlists
« on: October 02, 2004, 07:49:30 AM »
my stats: 3.61, 168...did double major with honors in both, no WE though, will have a masters completed in May...

Yale: Reject
Harvard: Reject
Stanford: Reject
Columbia: Reject
NYU: reject
Chicago: reject
Michigan: waitlist/accept (got the wee waiver, not sure if that means anything)
UPenn: waitlist/reject
Virginia: waitlist/accept
Duke: waitlist/accept
Cornell: accept/waitlist
Berkeley: reject
USC: accept
Notre Dame: accept
UNC: accept
Temple: accept

What does everyone think of this, do all of these sound about right or am I wrong on any???


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