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Current Law Students / Re: What was the hardest thing about your 1L?
« on: June 01, 2005, 03:20:05 PM »
I guess I won't sweat it. :D

That must be nice.

If it is true that people tend to like you, then there is something about your personality that will cause the trend to continue.

And anybody who doesn't well it's certainly no skin off your back. 

The 1 thing I worry about is the cut-throat people.  I've always gotten along great w/people in high school and college.  I mean I never had an enemy that I knew of and I'm just worried that I actually might across people I don't like (or worse yet- don't get along with) in law school.

I'm not saying that I want to make friends w/the whole world but I'm use to everyone liking me! :-\

I agree with Rapunzel.  Hopefully my second year will be as fulfilling as hers.

I found 1L year to be full of emotional responses to work that I didn't expect.  I think I had a false sense of preparation from reading books like PLS, Law School Confidential etc.  Most of those books tell you that you have nothing to fear, just do it their way.  And I believed that, kinda.  But when I got there, everything is a lot more unclear than I thought it was going in.  Further, I knew what to do according to those books, but I still had to find a system that worked for me.  I think that's really the most difficult thing.  Finding a system that works for you and learning an entirely new way to think, write, and learn (almost).

I would suggest not going in too idealistic, but not pessimistic.  With all things there must be a balance.

Along with the work, you must find time for yourself.  A lot of people in law school either work themselves to death or pretend to.

The other aspect of law school was the "game" of it all: the people, the work etc.  Prepare for an emotional rollercoaster and cutthroat type A people no matter where you go.  You will probably meet one or two people you like, but be cautious. It's better to be prepared that shell-shocked.

Current Law Students / Re: New York Bar
« on: May 29, 2005, 08:34:49 PM »
I heard it was the hardest too! :-\

Nobody here interested in the NY bar.

I heard its one of the most difficult.

I guess most of yall are like in your 1st or 2nd year of law school.

Wow, I'm glad you're not my parent! :-\

sorry darling, I am so bored at work I am reduced to reading a message board I don't even like, and then ridculing people for posting on it.

Seriously though, some people on here are just so naive that it really hurts mean not to put them down. And it is not cause I hate them or anything, it's just I feel so sorry for them that I think if I make them exam their lives even a little bit I will have done something good. I mean read some of this chick Mary's post, she is so good awfully ignorant I really wish I could help her in some way. I mean saying things like "what is stupider than drugs," seriously, who says *&^% like that?

I think I will be a great parent. I will handle it the same way I mange all my employees, through sarcasm, ridicule and shame.  :-*

I'm acting put of some weird persona!  Scared now? :o  I hope so! ;D

Mary, ...

I hope to god your posts are meant as jokes and you are acting out some weird persona. If not, I honestly and truely feel very bad for you. It must be so odd to walk through life so completely detached from everything else. I mean I know a good number of people that just don't get it, but man oh man.

Well she took you seriously because another poster said she was too old!

Troll, LEAVE this board!

Oh!  My mistake.  I thought you were asking for evidence that she was too smelly...
Sorry for the confusion.

Troll?  Give me a break.  She made a silly post, she deserves a silly answer.  Many of us(myself included) are 25+.

Troll, LEAVE this board!

Oh!  My mistake.  I thought you were asking for evidence that she was too smelly...
Sorry for the confusion.

You're not old!  What are you talking about?  I'm 25 too!   Don't listen to these pricks!

Whatever, I guess my first judgement was wrong.
What a bunch of snobs.

Thank you again! ;)

Um, I think it took me 3 solid afternoons.  Just did it once, but tried to do it right the first time.  Also- it was mentioned on another post and I think it bears mentioning- LEEWS teaches a methodology for success on an issue-spotting exam.  Most first year exams will fall in this category.  In my second year I have had exams which were completely objective, some statutory interpretation and several with very narrow issues requiring "oral" arguments to an appellant panel.  So I want to stress- LEEWS helped me as a place to start.  I was less nervous, I had a plan of attack for both my studying and the exam, I knew the value of practice exams, I practiced being concise, and I understood that the point was making legal arguments for both sides (something which was a major mystery to me until I listened to these tapes).  All good things to learn.  That being said I'd say the LEEWS process probably helped a great deal getting an A in Civ Pro, A- in Torts.  But I had a B in Crim a C+ in Property and Contracts at midterm.
In Contracts my prof did not like the writing style I used.  I talked to the prof, figured out what to change and ended up with an A-
Property was future interests- not an essay test- so of course LEEWS did not help.  The final was an issue spotter- so the methodology was appropriate- ended up with a B+.  If I could go back I would not have used it as much for Crim, the prof proabably would have appreciated a stronger policy argument.

The point is- and by the way, the LEEWS author does say this, you must prepare for the exam your particular prof will give.  If there are practice exams on file, you've got a good roadmap, but also, listen closely in class and don't be afraid to go ask questions.  Profs don't always articulate what they want.  I made some serious strategy changes for my finals and that paid off.  But LEEWS got me thinking in a good direction.

No study aid is the end all be all and everyone has a different learning style.  So again, I offer my qualified opinion that LEEWS can be a good place to start.

Last question... How long did it take to do the entire thing and did you do it over a second time?

Tapes or CD's a manuel and exercises.  Which I think are worth doing.

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