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I'm fine so far. No worries. Maybe the people having problems aren't able to adapt to having to work hard for perhaps the first time in their lives.

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Current Law Students / Re: "We've already got your money!"
« on: October 07, 2005, 06:57:57 PM »
It is carved in stone above the admissions office at every T4. The other 50$ end up as bartenders or librarians at law libraries.

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Current Law Students / Re: Studying Time and how to spend it
« on: October 07, 2005, 06:56:12 PM »
I guess it would depend on what type of law you're practicing as well. Your school must be one of the rare few, as most of the tier-1s have 80-100% passsage rates, with almost every T4 below 80%. The top 14 are all around 90%+ Studying merely to pass the bar seems like a straight memorization game instead of truly learning and understanding the law. I'm still a 1L though so I can't say whether or not that affects you down the road in terms of the way you think about the law in different situations.  http://www.geocities.com/newzraider04/ for usnews rank info.

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Current Law Students / Re: Studying Time and how to spend it
« on: October 07, 2005, 04:21:38 PM »
Hmmm. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing. Perhaps it's that the law is more practical and less theoretical at lower tiered schools. It's in "Law School Confidential" but I don't have it with me at the moment. Plus I know from some other posts that people mentioned a lack of theoretical discussion at their t3-4, which I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Surely you teach just a little differently to people at harvard and people at "insert tier-4 here". Let's not be totally defensive and ignore the 500lb gorilla. :)

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Current Law Students / Re: Studying Time and how to spend it
« on: October 06, 2005, 11:13:28 AM »
I had heard a difference between Tier 1 and much lower ranked schools was that the Tier 3-4 taught the state law of the state they're located in and Tier 1 did not. The rationale is supposedly that Tier-1 schools send their graduates to places around the country, while Tier 3-4 stays in-state.

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Current Law Students / Re: LAW SCHOOL, YUCK!
« on: October 02, 2005, 06:59:21 PM »
I have no real answer to your problems, but I just wanted to say that working while in school must suck. I'm paying for everything with loans and I know I couldn't learn as much as I am without being able to focus 100% on law school. I book brief, read treatises, and use the commercial outlines to help understand everything more fully. I look at it as if I was hiring a lawyer-- would I want someone that did the bare minimum in school, or someone that really knows what they're talking about.

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Current Law Students / Re: "We've already got your money!"
« on: October 02, 2005, 06:44:06 PM »
Umm...context?

"I want to kill you!" - with a knife in your hand and bulging eyes.
or
"I want to kill you!" - playing mario kart and losing to your sibling.

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Ohio State U / Re: I utterly detest OSU law
« on: October 02, 2005, 06:42:35 PM »
Speaking as a 1L here, I haven't had the same experience as what you've described. Most people are very friendly, and I haven't had a problem meeting people. While the social events DO always seem to center around going to a bar, there is the bowling and softball league.

I wouldn't doubt there is burnout among the people who went to law school without really knowing why. I am friends with a few people who I would expect will not last long simply because they don't know why they're here, and to study the amount required to do well requires a huge amount of motivation.

As for the professors, I've enjoyed all of mine so far and think that they're very high quality. I can see what you're saying about crim law though, some of them do tend to lord over the class a bit too much, but I guess it's to be expected after a certain number of years teaching the same thing over and over using the socratic method.

I would guess that your problems lie with what you already know to be true--the environment isn't for you. The core of your problems seem to stem from an inability to make friends for whatever reason. If you had a few friends to suffer with and vent your frustrations at, then I think we both know you wouldn't have had such a bad time.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Anti-Law School Advice Rant
« on: December 12, 2005, 08:04:47 PM »
Screw all that. I'm a 1L taking my finals right now and I still like law school. If you honestly can say to yourself that you would enjoy learning about law and how to apply it to different everyday situations, then you'll like law school. You need to enjoy reading and writing a lot as well.

The only people I know that don't like law school are those who came and didn't know why. The "backup planners" who came because they didn't want to get a job yet and thought law school would be an impressive resume builder or some *&^%. You'll find yourself in hell if that's why you came. Otherwise, I think it's a useful education and I'll look forward to a non-biglaw job working reasonable hours and making a shitload more cash than someone working 9-5 in an office who bitches about their job just as much. Really, besides maybe 5-10% of people, who LOVES their job? It's friggin' WORK! But still, I'd rather be doing something that requires my brain and has a chance of giving me more freedom in my life through higher pay.

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: 16 year old in at yale (woody allen's son)
« on: July 25, 2005, 01:21:55 PM »
I thought he got in because of his parents as well, but look at his stats you tards. 3.93? That's good. And he's 16. Yes, he's had experiences most of you haven't had because of his parents and their money, but the fact remains that he has the stats to get in, and the extras to boost him over the top. It's not an elitist conspiracy that gave him a 3.93 and a good lsat.

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