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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Should I Wait?
« on: December 03, 2009, 10:20:40 PM »
What are you scoring? I agree with your teacher that there are skills that can be learned to boost your score, but your overall score does correlate with intelligence as well. I don't know any stupid people that got a high score by learning skills.

If you've taken multiple classes and studied for months and months, and you're still scoring low, it might not be the skills that are lacking, but simply the ability to process information quickly, which is one measure of intelligence. I'm not at all implying you are stupid, but are you trying to get a 170+ or something? Not everyone can get a 170+, no matter how much they study, because it does take a measure of pure intelligence and ability to process info really quickly.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Better to not study??
« on: December 03, 2009, 03:37:17 PM »
I think part of your post is missing. He didn't study at all and scored what?

I'm going to go ahead and say what almost everyone here will tell you: NOT studying for this test would be a huge mistake. Astronomically huge. Even someone with genius level intellect should take a minimum of 5 previous LSAT tests, and if you're scoring 180 on all of them, fine, no more studying needed. But for everyone else, studying for a couple of months is generally going to result in a large increase to your score.

The first thing I'd do is go ahead and take one of the previous years lsat tests. If you are scoring where you want to be, maybe you don't need to study much. But let's say you score something like 155, which is very normal. You could raise your score by 10+ points simply by learning the tricks to the test that the Powerscore books will teach you.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: what to do?
« on: December 02, 2009, 12:41:05 PM »
I would suggest working out, but it's probably a little late to be starting a new exercise routine. Nevertheless, your body released a ton of chemicals that help with focus/concentration after you do a hard cardio workout.

That, and green tea is a nice little antioxidant/caffeine boost to further improve mental clarity.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LG section - right approach?
« on: December 02, 2009, 12:38:47 PM »
PowerScore Logic Games Bible. I remember it helping me a lot but not specifically what to do.

It was my understanding that they don't want you to take more than 3 tests in any 2-yr period. It's been more than 2 years since you took the first 2 tests, so I don't see why it would be a problem.

I have to disagree with Inherit saying the lsat doesn't test your reading ability. You will need to be able to read quickly and at a high level since there is so much time pressure. Also, the reading is not light, as you found out. If you aren't already, I would read books for pleasure to help increase reading speed. Pick up something you like and just read every night before you go to bed.

I also recommend the PowerScore books.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Who's in for February 2010?
« on: December 01, 2009, 06:58:31 PM »
Might be taking Feb test as well in order to get a score needed to teach for PowerScore or similar test prep.

Studying and Exam Taking / Re: How Many Hours Do You Study Per Week
« on: November 28, 2009, 04:08:12 PM »
Yes, some people are workaholics and will put in ridiculous hours in order to get that top 10%. Yes, the legal practice is a grind that requires a ton of hours if you want to work at a big firm. Yes, I graduated and am not practicing law for this very reason. Yes, 90% of the people I know who are working at law firms hate it. Yes, you should find another career. HTH

Just to update, I did indeed pass the bar 1st try w/o taking the BarBri class, or any other class. It can be done, and it's not really that difficult. Just get all the BarBri materials, plus a few other books, and study on your own.


The problem I have with you giving this advice is that you seem to have not been "anywhere but law school" yourself.

Full disclosure though, I am not in law school yet, so I don't have a direct comparison.

I'm not trying to make a comparison to engineering. Maybe engineering sucks even more, I don't know. All I'm doing is relaying my experience and those of my classmates. I don't really know why it would be a problem for me to give advice having graduated from law school, taken the bar exam, and worked summers as a law any qualms with my experience doesn't negate what my friends thought. Yes, it's true I haven't worked in every profession ever created, so I can't say with 100% certainty that law is any worse than "X" profession, but I've worked for over a year now outside of law school and much prefer my job now.

It's not just me saying this. Look up some job satisfaction numbers. Lawyers have the lowest job satisfaction out of just about everyone.

well, first off i am a 0L.  I am pushed towards law because i have always felt like it's something i was meant to do.  for whatever reason, i just have that gut feeling. 

That is exactly the type of thinking I'm trying to help people avoid. If you just "feel it's the right choice for you," stop feeling and start thinking. If you want to "help people" do it as a volunteer. Or make a lot of money and donate some of it. I know it's easy to just put the blinders on and sort it out after you start law school rather than make a U-turn partway through the process, but believe me, the law takes idealism, chews it up and spits it out as disillusionment. I actually had a laugh looking at some of my posts from 5 years ago. I specifically said that I needed to look into why so many lawyers dislike their jobs before I started law school, but I never did it. I thought "well I'll work at a small firm and won't fall into the biglaw trap. Or I'll work for the state." I wish I had done more research into what lawyers do on a day to day basis, and what they think about their job.

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