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Current Law Students / Re: 2 & 3Ls...every bomb 1st semester...
« on: December 15, 2005, 08:19:30 PM »
yes it did, it makes perfect sense.

thank you for the advice. having that sort of attitude is basically my plan for next semester. and if i could finish top third, i would feel great.

Current Law Students / 2 & 3Ls...ever bomb 1st semester...
« on: December 15, 2005, 09:35:45 AM »
...and then do really well during spring semester?

If so, how did you change things?

Current Law Students / issue spotting on exam
« on: December 09, 2005, 03:41:18 PM »
Let's say the professor puts about 10-12 major issues in a contracts exam. He's said that the person who finds all 12 gets an A+, which has only ever happened once in his teaching career. About where might one expect the median to be in terms of issue spotting?

(I realize it all depends on the class, the professor and the school's grading system...but I'm just curious to hear some random thoughts from those who've taken exams).

Current Law Students / Re: Advice needed about where to attend
« on: November 30, 2005, 10:27:12 AM »
"I think you're painting an overly rosy picture of the T14.  And I disagree that clients care about rankings.  Clients care about their case and getting it resolved with minimal time and expense.  Maybe sophisticated organizational BigLaw clients know about rankings, but firms care about the rankings, not the clients."

i think the rosy picture she's painting of the top 14 is pretty well deserved. those are the only truly national schools. any firm in denver is going to take someone from any top 14 before they do from CU, unless the CU grad is at the very top of their class.

now if the OP isn't interested in big law, and wants to do public interest, work for the state government, or start their own practice then, yes, CU is probably the way to go. you're right that clients don't care. unfortunately, employers really do.

Current Law Students / Re: Advice needed about where to attend
« on: November 30, 2005, 10:22:33 AM »
If you get into a top 14, go there!! The debt will seem terrible but you'll pay it off quickly, unless you're interested in public interest law or becoming a D.A. The reason Mich would be a better option is that large firm employers presume that any Mich or Gtown student is a walking money maker. Plus, T14 schools hand out high B's like they're included in the tuition. Thus, all you need to do is pass, which isn't hard to do. However, if you decide to attend CU, the large firms may only look at you if you are on law review, highly ranked, etc. While you may be confident that you can be in the top of your class at CU, so does everyone...but obviously not every does.

You can get any job you want in Denver if you go to Mich, whereas I can't say the same if you were to attend CU. It's not that CU is a bad school, but rankings matter to firms b/c they matter to clients. That's all I'm saying.

i'm glad to see someone else thinks the top 14 is the way to go, no matter where you want to work (that is, of course, IF you have the opportunity).

but what would you say to the OP about the other schools s/he applied to? besides michigan they're not top 14, but are all top 20 or 25, i believe. in fact, the OP already got in to minnesota. what do you think about those options? i think that's a tough choice.

Current Law Students / Re: Advice needed about where to attend
« on: November 29, 2005, 06:31:15 PM »
so texas that is number 15 wouldn't be "ok"?  maybe i should go to a psychic to tell me what to do.  nah, your advice has been very helpful.  looks like i'm probably colorado bound. :)

texas would be a great school to attend...i would love to go there myself. however, when it comes to working in colorado, your best bet is clearly top 14 or CU. though if you do get in to texas, i would weigh that option much more heavily against CU than i would the other schools you applied to. if it comes down to texas or CU, maybe you should look in to their employment record in CO, or do a search to see how many attorneys in CO have texas degrees.

but again, that's only texas. if it's any of those other schools aside from michigan, i would say go to CU for sure, especially if they give you $$, which they probably will.

Current Law Students / Re: Advice needed about where to attend
« on: November 29, 2005, 04:06:20 PM »
this is good advice. i would also say it's sounds best for you to go to CU, especially if you get scholarship money.

the one thing i'm going to have to disagree with is the poster that said only going to one  of the top 5's would be better than CU. the top 14 are the national schools, so i don't really understand why somewhere like NYU would be worthwhile, but somewhere like michigan or penn would not. they're all national schools that would help put you in the running for great jobs, wherever you wanted to work in the country. once you're outside the top 14, however, it becomes an entirely different story.

Current Law Students / Re: Advice needed about where to attend
« on: November 29, 2005, 10:34:39 AM »
if you get in to umich, your problems are solved. there would be no reason to not go there. i would probably say the same thing for texas.

why do you want to go to CO? do you have ties to the area, or are you just interested in the area?

also, how set are you on ending up there?

Transferring / Re: Didn't transfer, SO glad I stayed at 4th Tier!
« on: November 20, 2005, 04:46:22 PM »
it sounds like you made the right choice.

however, you were top 5%. where i would say transferring up might be beneficial is for someone who is top 15-20% and didn't make law review. in that case, the closer you can get to the top of the rankings the better (assuming biglaw is a goal).

i'm sure you've heard it plenty, but excellent work.

Current Law Students / Re: Study Abroad
« on: November 13, 2005, 02:32:44 PM »
i'm studying abroad this summer, but i haven't yet decided where.

anyone know if employers will look at study abroad as the "something legal" you're supposed to do your first summer? or would it be a good idea to get an internship when i came home, for the rest of the summer?

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