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i'm left waiting until february 1, our official date for 1L grades.

it's hard to get motivated when you're still waiting, especially that long. i just might have to drop out next month if they're not what i expect.

Current Law Students / Re: Who is the worst law professor?
« on: January 15, 2006, 10:38:57 PM »
i wish law school was like the paperchase...but it's not...

Current Law Students / Re: Your Typical Law Student Out There
« on: January 15, 2006, 10:37:04 PM »
you seem biased against PhD's and other types of "intellectuals"...

Transferring / Re: What Schools Accept Early Action Transfers?
« on: January 15, 2006, 10:33:24 PM »
definitely check out that's the HQ for those in the top of their classes who want to transfer.

my question is, what tier is your current school and what's your ranking?

Current Law Students / Re: Do BIGLAW firms recruit outside T14 schools?
« on: January 15, 2006, 10:31:29 PM »

do a search for the city / firm that you are interested in

generally the schools from which the firm recruits are listed

as i general rule (from what i have noticed from my own job search) is that they actively recruit from Yale to GW [that whole t20 nonense] and whichever local schools that happen to be in the area

question- how "actively" do they recruit from those at a T20 outside of the T14? i've generally got word at my school that, because we're not T14 and only T20, only 1/3 of our class has a chance at "biglaw".

Current Law Students / Re: Financial Aid/Law School Admissions Chances
« on: January 15, 2006, 10:25:12 PM »

i love outlining. it sounds lame, but i really do; it's one of the miniscule things that li love about law school.

what i really want to know is what everyone does AFTER their outlining is done. when you have your outline ready to go, what do you do? do you narrow it down? do you make flashcards? do you leave it as is and start applying it to *EDIT: hypos/practice exams?

basically, i think outlining is good. it's something i won't stop doing. but what steps do you, personally, take beyond it?

i'm a 1L, and i just wanted to say that i considered doing the same thing you're considering during the application process. the problem is, which i've really started to realize, is that law school admissions is arguably more number-based than any other type of grad school admissions. you might write the VERY best PS statement they've ever read, or have the VERY best recs ever, or have absolutely AMAZING work experience, all of which might just get you in to your law school of choice. but chances are, if you're like 99.9% of applicants, you're going to be all numbers based- it's really all about your LSAT and GPA.

that being said, all law schools basically realize that you could get in to a lower ranked school, whether or not you could get in to theirs. you might get rejected from most tier 1's (as was the case with me), and get almost full rides at tier 2's (as was also the case with me). the point is, law school "abracadabra" knows that if you basically have the numbers to get in to their school, and the school isn't tier 3 or 4, you could very easily get in to a lower-ranked school. they care about one thing, which is their own status. so they won't really be playing the jealousy game with their applicants, especially considering how many people apply to each law school.

Current Law Students / Re: Rankings/Transfer...
« on: January 15, 2006, 02:22:42 PM »
T14 huh? Maybe what I just did really hasn't sunk in that really within grasp? B/c if so I'm definitely going to start going to church more.

well, sign up at and check out the database. it looks like people from tier 3's were transferring to T14, and their rankings were somewhat lower than yours. if you don't have a chance at T14, you almost certainly do at a T25. send out a ton of apps if you need to, it's worth it and you'll definitely get in somewhere.

EDIT: one more thing...just be careful that it doesn't go to your head for next semester- i don't mean cockiness, but overconfidence. i hear some people get so confident that they'll do well again that they don't end up as high after second semester. of course, you could just as easily be one of those people who "gets" law school exams. that's probably the case seeing how very well you did, so that's probably another reason to transfer up. why not be near the top of your class at a top ranked school?

Current Law Students / Re: Rankings/Transfer...
« on: January 15, 2006, 12:41:55 PM »
looking at transferapps, i think you might want to consider aiming a lot higher than tier 3 or georgia state.

i would apply to georgetown early action ASAP. you have a VERY good shot. though, i have to admit the fact that your school was so recently certified might hurt. still, top 2% is amazing and should give you a very good chance, especially if you apply sooner rather than later. you might also want to apply to any other T14's that have early action, and especially some schools ranked around 20.

if your ranking stays as high after next semester, i would probably then send a transfer application to every T14 school. that's just me though.

either way, congrats on the major accomplishment. as much as i hate the prestige whoring, your hard work has really paid off. should you transfer, you're looking at guaranteed employment (something which is, unfortunately, often lacking in lower tiered schools) and at least double the salary you might have otherwise made. even if money isn't your game, it will give you a lot more career flexibility.

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