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Current Law Students / Re: Law and Philosophy
« on: February 06, 2006, 09:35:16 PM »
i imagine it would be hard going from a merit-based grading system to a strict law school curve. though you are right, the upper level classes are much different than 1L classes.

did you find a good supplement/outline? from my limited experience in law school (1L), i'm not convinced outlines and supplements help that much. most people that i know who did very well took what they knew, after learning as much as they could on their own, and focused on mastering that for exams. they did a lot better than people who knew a wide variety of more limited information. if i was you i might just focus on learning it as best you can, talking to the professor about it as much as possible, even reading outside materials that further details your knowledge on the matter. being a grad student, you're probably already good at that.

so really, i'm not convinved those over-generalized supplements help an incredible amount, unless you need specific help with certain areas that you don't understand.

Current Law Students / Re: Law and Philosophy
« on: February 01, 2006, 08:23:17 PM »
do they grade grad students on the same curve as the law students in the class?

Transferring / Re: transfer
« on: January 23, 2006, 09:30:27 PM »
are you at cooley full time?

EDIT: also, when did you start? this (spring) semester, or last semester?

Transferring / Re: Extra-curriculars
« on: January 22, 2006, 07:08:54 PM »
i would highly suggest posting your question on the transferapps site's board. you're bound to get some decent answers from people who know a lot about the transfer process, and probably even from those who have transferred.

the address is in case you don't have it. you have to be a registered yahoo member to access it.

in my own opinion, i wouldn't count on extracurriculars helping you to a great extent. your ranking is what will ultimately determine if you can make the jump from T4 to T14. but i can imagine that if you can still pull off top grades while participating in all of those activities, it will help at least somewhat. i bet law schools would prefer a transfer student with great grades who will also contribute to the school's community.

Current Law Students / Re: Grades????
« on: January 21, 2006, 03:28:36 PM »
i've heard that (at least at my school) there is quite a bit of flopping around.

now i'm sure it's not to the level of those who got straight As first semester are getting straight Cs next semester, or vice versa- when you're in one of those positions you're probably doing something exactly right or something wrong. but it seems like almost everyone has a lower grade at some point in their first year, and i've been told by quite a few people that their grades went up by almost an entire letter (ex B- --> A-).

EDIT: i wanted to add that i just found out last night that a friend of mine went from getting Ds and low Cs her first year, to almost straight As her second. granted, this is much different from making a similar improvement during your second semester (when grades are arguably much more important), but it shows it can be done.

Current Law Students / study abroad with internship?
« on: January 21, 2006, 02:15:17 PM »
does anyone know of study abroad programs that also have an internship component?

i was recently told by a career counselor that study abroad by itself is not necessarily the best 1L summer option unless you do also do an internship, in which case it's great.

Current Law Students / Re: Anon LS Dean here taking questions...
« on: January 21, 2006, 11:36:15 AM »
While we are on the topic, am I the only one who does not view the Socratic method as anegative experience? Why would it be negative to be expected to present the material you are supposed to be reading? My professors probe you yes, asking you more specific questions, forcing you to really think critically about the issues and the law, but it is not in a negative manner. It simply forces you to do the reading and more importantly, analyze and actually learn the law.

i don't know that it's "negative". i mean, if you get called on, deal with it or leave law school. what i do know, however, is that some people in and around legal academia have questioned its usefulness, but that legal academia has remained fairly hostile to any changes, even in classes taught by those who think there are better methods.

to me it's not about "liking" the socratic method or not. but if it is true that academics continue the cycle of socratic method simply because that's how they succeeded and want others to succeed- instead of it actually being good for the students- to me that's a problem.

but again, if the socratic method is really best, then so be it. i wouldn't support an overthrow of the law school establishment just for the sake of doing so, as some on this board seem to have suggested.

Current Law Students / Re: Grades????
« on: January 20, 2006, 05:29:30 PM »
3.2 just seems ridiculously high. i'm at 3.0 right now (praying it will only go up), and according to the handbook that's a "with honors" gpa. so basically, about 60% of the class is in "with honors" standing. crazy.

Current Law Students / Re: Grades????
« on: January 20, 2006, 04:16:20 PM »

what's GW's median?

congrats, btw!

BTW I just got all my grades but one:

C (2 credit)
B- (3 credit)
B- (3 credit)
B (3 credit)

for an average so far of 2.64. My missing class is a 4 credit class. My school uses a 2.8 curve. I'm pretty darn upset about it right now but I'll be over it by tomorrow morning after I eat some greasy pizza and chocolate bars! LOL.

But seriously, is a 2.64 on a 2.8 curve really awful? I'm being told it's about right.

no that's not awful at all. that puts you somewhere around the median. of course "median" means different things at different schools in terms of employment etc., but i don't see why being in the middle of the class is bad at all. congrats.

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