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Current Law Students / Re: Another reason why Bar/Bri is the devil
« on: July 15, 2008, 07:30:54 PM »
Is anyone else getting killed by the advanced drills? I was getting 65-75% of the intermediate questions right. Now, I am only getting 40-45% of the advanced drills correct.

If you are talking about sets 5/6, the "goals" at the end of the MPQ1 book are only 45%ish. You may be getting killed but you are also right on the money.

Commercial Paper was on the New York exam as a major essay issue last summer. I don't think I'm even going to bother studying it. If it shows its ugly head this July, I'll just have to bull my way through it...

Power to you if you can BS through a Commercial Paper essay.

Sec Trans comes up on the IL bar every year. Lucky you.

Our non-testables are Admin and Tax. Bar/Bri does not bother even lecturing on them. During one of the lectures the professor made some joke about admin and tax essays. A student asked him what would happen if the examiners picked them as essays. He simply replied "chaos" and moved on.

Well, I transferred out of UDSL, so I feel for you if that is the case.

Your situation is unique enough where I am not sure if anyone on this board would have any concrete advice for you. If you have some schools in mind based your LSAT/GPA and region, I think the best bet would be to call the Admissions Dean and have a frank chat. I have found admissions offices to be relatively frank places, so I don't think they would jerk you around either way.

The only advice I might offer is that if you are in a position of having to plead your case, I would avoid the details of the 1L. 1L sucks for everyone and if you attempt to justify how terrible it was, it might sound like you are making excuses. You seem to be pretty level headed so I probably would just say that it was the wrong program at the wrong time in your life.
I only mention this because I worked as the pre-law adviser for the ugrads at my school this year and whenever they had to submit a statement of academic clarification (explaining one semester with a atypically terrible gpa), it always was irritating when they would attempt to explain it away in terms of the difficulty of course work, spiteful TAs, etc. The best statements were always the shortest and most contrite.

Best of luck to you.

If I had to guess, the OP's school sounds exactly like the University of Dayton.

Current Law Students / Re: Bar Exam Study Thread
« on: July 14, 2008, 12:44:40 PM »
How do you figure your scaled score?  I missed a boatload of questions on my practice MBE, -78 OUCH!  :-[ :'(

122 puts you in terrific shape. The median was a 108 for that test and Bar/Bri said that even 108 puts you on good footing for the real deal.

The scale shifts every year, but it seems like 13 points is the most consistent figure from year to year.

Current Law Students / Re: Another reason why Bar/Bri is the devil
« on: July 14, 2008, 12:42:15 PM »
Hmm, if the real passing answers are that bad, than I'll nail the bar exam, since in my Essay Advantage class, I scored a few passing answers (score of 75), with the others being in the mid-to-upper 60's. Regarding the ones that were passing, they didn't look anything like the model answers, which is why I agree with everyone here: the BarBri model answers are ridiculously detailed.  I even asked my local BarBri rep who writes them, and finally she admitted that their staff attorneys write them.  An even more telling statement on her part: the staff attorneys don't write the model answers in the one-hour time limit that we have in Nevada.  Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they spent hours on some of those answers! 

Also, just wondering if anyone here took the simulated MBE the other day?  Hopefully everyone did well.  I'm shocked that I did as well as I did (137 correct out of 200), especially since I get most of the PMBR questions wrong.  I'm beginning to wonder if it's just luck or something, considering that I felt like utter sh*t during the test:  it's really difficult to concentrate like that for 6 hours.

I have to keep repeating to myself:  "I WILL get through this, I WILL get through this..."

I haven't taken a whole MBE yet, I did 100 questions and did basically the same as you.  68% or 136 raw score if it had been 200.  My book told me that this came out to about a 151 scaled.

Here is a question, my book has a chart for each test for converting raw score to scaled score.  It seems the NBE is equalizing scores; rather than adding 15 points to every test, they add more points to the people who do poorly and less points to the people who did well.  If you got a 173 raw they only added 7 points, but if you got a 100 raw score they added 22 points.  To me this seems like BS, giving less reward to those who do well. 

The goal is to pass, not CALI the bar. Relax.

Current Law Students / Re: Bar/Bri takers - MPT Workshop?
« on: July 13, 2008, 07:10:37 PM »
I agree with the other posters. Learning how critical the format of your answer is, in regard to points was great. The analysis was pretty terrible though, and like all things Bar/Bri, the model answers were totally beyond the pale of what a student can write. Our lecturer even admitted this.

Current Law Students / Re: Another reason why Bar/Bri is the devil
« on: July 13, 2008, 01:11:39 PM »
I am OUTRAGED by the Illinois essay book.  Many, if not most, of the answers are way too long and completely unresponsive to the question (or at least 90% of the answer is unresponsive).  I feel like most of these questions could be answered with a few sentences, and with 30 minutes, they'd better be.  One of the family law questions asks if spousal maintenance is appropriate and they list all SEVEN criteria in a tidy little box!  RIDICULOUS.  How about something that can realistically be done in 30 minutes.  Does anybody know if IL posts sample answers that received a 5 anywhere?  My guess is probably not, since they just started doing MEE in 2007 and that's 6 of the 9 essays. 

I'm sitting for Illinois as well and am similarly pissed off. I was working through an Illinois Civ Pro question that had a model answer that was purely a FRCP answer (International Shoe analysis). It was cited the Federal Rules and not an ounce of Illinois law.

I also think the model answer grading is a *&^% show.

Current Law Students / Re: Another reason why Bar/Bri is the devil
« on: July 11, 2008, 05:48:24 PM »
At least we learned that Horace the Bear despite having no claws, teeth, or energy is still a wild animal. Fucker couldn't even squeeze a lemon.

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