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Law School Admissions / Re: The "I am not applying T-14" Thread
« on: October 05, 2004, 08:34:29 AM »
That's me to a T!  Here's my roster so far, but a few may get knocked off when I get my LSAT and LSAC GPA (4 colleges, so I'm not sure what it will be).

Catholic (USN 82)
Hofstra  (USN 89)
Hamline (T4)
SUNY Buffalo (USN 82)
St. Louis U. (not WUSTL)

NorthEastern (USN 77)
Chicago-Kent    (USN63)
OSU (USN 42)
U. Missouri   (USN 63)

UI-UC (USN 27)
U.Wisc (USN 31)
American (USN 56) - applying for full-time but would probably take part-time if offered
Washington & Lee
George Washington (part-time)

I cut and pasted this roster and am too lazy to remove the ranking info.

158-162.  My goal is to break 160.  If I get a 157 or lower, will it be too late to sign up for December?

I only got 1!  *Sniff*

Law School Admissions / Re: Help me Cut down my list of schools
« on: October 05, 2004, 07:32:36 AM »
Ok, you don't want to live in DC...where do you plan on working with a JD from Maryland?

Why is DC the only option with a JD from Maryland?   

Law School Admissions / Re: why isn't Michigan law ivy league?
« on: October 05, 2004, 07:26:40 AM »

how is cornell partially public?

i fixed my typo. and i got the partially public thing from someone else on this board, who got it from xoxo. i guess their agriculture school or something minor like that receives public funding. therefore, it's a third tier toilet. ;)

3 of the 7 schools (Agriculture & Life Sciences, Human Ecology and Industrial/Labor Relations) are partially state-funded, so in-state residents get a significant discount (about half maybe?) on tuition if they're in one of those schools. 

I wouldn't call Ag "minor" since it's a very large, renowned program and was one of the first schools formed at Cornell well before the Ivy League was founded.

I settled in NY after graduation...think I should try to get a refund after paying out-of-state tuition?

Law School Admissions / Re: why isn't Michigan law ivy league?
« on: October 04, 2004, 08:27:41 PM »
Hey, I graduated from one of these schools, so I'll be the first to say that they're great.  

However, the Ivy League was formed in the 1940's and hasn't changed since then.  That's why I refer to it as antiquated.  Also, because the Ivy League does refer to a defined athletic organization, no...the designation has nothing to do with current academics. It's not as if a school like Northwestern or Stanford would automically become Ivy League if it moved ahead of all of these schools in academic rankings.

antiquated? maybe. has nothing to do with the current quality of academics? i wouldn't go that far. plus, they are some of the highest endowed universities in the country. (

Law School Admissions / Re: why isn't Michigan law ivy league?
« on: October 04, 2004, 08:08:43 PM »
...because there will never be other Ivy League schools besides the original 8 that Bisquick listed.  Well actually, I guess a school could be invited to join the Ivy League by the other 8, but somehow I think that pigs would fly before that happened.  Here's a good explanation behind the evolution of the Ivy League, with a link to the official webpage:

I hate the way the term "Ivy League" is thrown around like it's the be-all-end-all.  It's just an outdated athletic association that has nothing to do with the current quality of academics at these schools.  

Studying for the LSAT / Re: experimental
« on: October 02, 2004, 04:11:26 PM »
After I finished Section 2 (games for me) I was hoping that it was the experimental.  But when I got to Section 5 and realized that those WERE the real games, I wished I hadn't jinxed myself.  LOL.  Oh well, I think I did an equally crappy job on both sections anyhow.  Thank god there were only 22!

Law School Admissions / Re: How many are you applying to
« on: October 01, 2004, 09:00:18 AM »
You guys have convinced me to apply to all the schools that I'm interested in.  Let's see, that's from 11 to...15?

My hypothesis is that top schools in general spend more effort expanding student's networks and providing quality career services.  The name itself can make a huge difference in your resume which is all about getting that interview.  However, the largest advantage of a degree from a top school is the ability to come out in front at the beginning of the game.  The longer you're in the working world, the less people care about where your degree came from. Depending on the field that you work in though, there may or may not be a substantial difference in entry-level opportunities that will justify choosing a top school.
I think that elite schools tend to be able to draw employers from a much larger range.  A recruiter from a big name corporation is more willing to spend the time and money to travel afar to an elite school.  For example, I held 5 different internships during college that either paid extremely well or covered all my expenses (flight, hotel, food, etc.), all except 1 recruited exclusively from my program for interns despite the fact that were in such varied locations as Ohio, N. Carolina, NY and Cali. 

It's not that most students won't have an opportunity to get at those positions, but at an elite school, they're more likely to come to you rather than the other way around, and solicited resumes almost always get looked at first.  Also, there's often an ego thing for the employers to supervise students/graduates from top schools.  One of my bosses liked to be able to say, "Look, I've just got a degree from X State but I've got 3 Ivy Leaguers working under me now."

A good way to judge the quality of a school's career services is to see their roster of on-campus recruiters.  Is there a wide variety of recruiters (industries, company size, location, positions sought)?  Is there a huge difference between the number of employers versus another school that you're looking at?

BUT it really depends on your circumstances and goals.  Would you rather work in the area that you currently live in or do you see yourself living in an entirely different part of the country?  How important is the undergrad degree in the career field that you want to work in?  Is access to research facilities/opportunities going to be a big factor in your education, and do elite schools tend to better in this area? 

Of course, finances will always be a factor, but don't let that prevent you from applying to programs.  If you have to choose between schools, it's always easier to do so after you have a concrete idea of what you're going to pay.  Then you'll have decide for yourself whether a large difference in financial aid/debt is going to be worth choosing the better-ranked school.

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