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Also factor in that if he goes to Marquette, he gets the "diploma privilege" of not having to take the bar in WI.

General Board / Re: grades and 1L summer prospects
« on: January 28, 2009, 12:12:23 PM »
I've got radio silence after applying to a ton of judges and some public interest places (not even trying for any paid or prestigious positions) about two weeks ago.  They don't know my grades.  I'm still applying to more places, but I'm not getting my hopes up.  I'm clearly close to the bottom of my class, there's nothing too special about my resume, and I don't currently have any connections I can work.

Should I start begging professors to let me do research for them (would they even let me)?  Would working in the law library be acceptable?  Should I consider some study abroad thing just so I'm doing something?

What does your Career Services Office say?  You go to a Top 10 school, so although you might not PERSONALLY have connections, you should have a great alumni network to tap into.  Ask your professors for suggestions, and yes, see if they need summer research help. Working in the law library probably won't cut it. 

If you're willing to work for free, there should be absolutely no reason why you can't get legal work this summer.  Be proactive- contact public interest orgs or government agencies that don't have formal internship programs and offer your help.  Include your references and writing sample, and if that's enough to get you an interview, they may never ask for your transcript. 

Non-Traditional Students / Re: Would I be considered "Non-traditional"?
« on: January 26, 2009, 03:06:01 PM »
Agreed, there's no set definition of "non-trad".  But top-tier UG, moderately-high GPA, and a couple of years in I-banking, actually describes quite a few law students/applicants I know.  I think that's actually a fairly "traditional" background for law school. 

At this point, all that really matters is your LSAT score.

I would go with SLU over UDC.  SLU actually places decently in DC.  IHowever, the reverse question of "How does UDC place in STL" is the dealbreaker to me.  I'd venture to say (though you should check with UDC to confirm) that there are very few (if any) UDC grads practicing in STL.  I also would not be surprised if many STL employers have never heard of UDC, esp since UDC only obtained full accreditation from the ABA in 2005. 

General Board / READ THIS BOOK
« on: January 26, 2009, 02:49:27 PM »
The Spiritual Revitalization of the Legal Profession

Briefing isn't really that hard of a "skill" to learn.  If you can do it once or twice successfully, it doesn't really matter if you've done it hundreds of times. 

Agreed.  I learned how to brief cases in undergrad, so it can't be that difficult!  It's the analysis/application-to-fact part that gets tough on exams/memos.  I've been asked to brief cases on all of my internships though.

General Board / Re: Judicial Internship vs. Paid Law Firm
« on: January 22, 2009, 11:23:13 AM »
Ditto SFPD- a dist ct judge (also depending which district) isn't that terribly prestigious.  $1300/wk is nothing to sneer at.  Take the money and run!

General Board / Re: Summer job opportunities for T2 with average grades?
« on: January 22, 2009, 11:21:06 AM »
The important question is: what do you want to do?

Speaking from experience, it is possible to get a 1L summer internship (yes, even paid) with bad grades.  Check the job postings carefully- some employers won't even ask for your transcript, just resume and writing sample.

General Board / Re: 2.0 - Should I drop out?
« on: January 20, 2009, 05:01:31 PM »
No, that isn't "par for the course for students after their 1L semester".  Don't drop out because of your grades.  Drop out because it's not something you're interested in enough to waste your time and money on.  Life is too short.  Figure out what you really want to do with your life and move on.

As already noted, there's nothing you can do to change your GPA as calculated by LSAC.  I don't think a second degree will help you much in terms of law school admissions.  The only thing you can do is improve your LSAT score.  My guess is that you'll probably need to score 160+ to get into an accredited school.  The good news is that they don't average out scores anymore.  Also, keep in mind that most law school apps ask whether or not you've been in law school before.  It will not look good that you dropped out somewhere else so you REALLY need to focus on LSAT. 

Some unsolicited input- from your few posts (esp w/regard to getting a grad degree before applying to law school), I get the sense that you're not entirely sure what you want to do as a career.  Have you sought career counseling/testing?

3L job search / Re: Equal Justice Works Career Fair
« on: September 17, 2008, 10:33:28 AM »
I didn't go last year.  I'm only going if I get interviews since I've gotta take off classes and pay my way down there.  There are much fewer employers looking to hire post-grad :(

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