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General Off-Topic Board / Re: was going to Iraq a good idea?
« on: February 26, 2012, 02:42:31 AM »
"The Kurds in Northern Iraq got majorly shafted by Saddam and almost completely exterminated so it is good that they are now living without constant fear of getting gassed.

The Hussein regime was bad news for pretty much everybody in that area of the world, including Saddam himself with the way it worked out for him, his family and cohorts in the end. Bummer for them, but luckily that is what typically ends up happening eventually to evil, greedy and violent people.

Was it worth the $$ spent and lives lost to try to help bring peace to the middle east and encourage the governments and populations of people in the area to behave in more civilized, less violent ways?  I don't have an answer to that question. Maybe in a few decades or centuries historians might have some good facts/information/news to publish and write about regarding that area of the world"


                        --- quote from chuck


...aye like what you wrote here...well put.
but you don't have to wait dcades...because your first line is right..it's happening today.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: go newt go!
« on: February 25, 2012, 11:16:27 PM »
paul going stay in no matter what.  he be problem enough for repugs in general.  right now, julie looking for nomination troubles.

julie want con tested convention so divine sarah can enter race and get holy *&^% kicked out her.

fun!

This confirms that we independent consevatives select our presidents....Romney and Obama are the only two contenders...doesn't matter which one wins.


The right wing nuts and left-wing nuts both want her to run...lol.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: was going to Iraq a good idea?
« on: February 25, 2012, 11:04:48 PM »
Well, you fully grasped that it is a Caribbean thing...and aye tink dat is da first time ya mentioned dat. ;)
And you'd be right.  Aye make money off of my writing; with that understanding what rationale supports the notion that aye write with my usual style?

Make sense now?

Aye agree with you on mesopoetamia and our tribal oriented sisters and brothers in the mid east...
Troubles they have, but the dictators affect and effect relationships with other nations...we are all directly and/or indirectly connected...sometimes the USA has to get involved...
...when mass graves are dug by a dictator or regime though, yes aye am a warmonger when it comes to taking out the ones who initiated the digging...so, perhaps aye am a warmonger....

So?

...aye wouldn't use caps either but because of "convenience" and our modern homunculi mentality many computers try to automatically spell and provide vocabulary options....
...aye don't mind some of it because it assists with anonymity...

....aye have NO interest in video games...played pong years ago, though...did think "raiders of lost ark" video game was mildly amusing years ago...

Now, aye bet you understood all of the above.

...some of my friends know my logic games and word tricks and obfuscating manner; they won't play poker because even aye don't know how aye will play a hand...aye am a confounding human being...so aye'm sorry that aye can be confusing or out of touch to you, my man.

...confusing? Not to me.



Fortook:  If you spend much time trying to have intelligent discussions with and try to reason with BlueWarrior, you will very quickly have the urge to

He's a war monger, and probably so from spending too much time playing violent video games. 

Granted, he has made a few good points in this thread, seems to have the ability to read news stories and likes the people in northern Iraq.  The Kurds in Northern Iraq got majorly shafted by Saddam and almost completely exterminated so it is good that they are now living without constant fear of getting gassed.

The Hussein regime was bad news for pretty much everybody in that area of the world, including Saddam himself with the way it worked out for him, his family and cohorts in the end. Bummer for them, but luckily that is what typically ends up happening eventually to evil, greedy and violent people.

Was it worth the $$ spent and lives lost to try to help bring peace to the middle east and encourage the governments and populations of people in the area to behave in more civilized, less violent ways?  I don't have an answer to that question. Maybe in a few decades or centuries historians might have some good facts/information/news to publish and write about regarding that area of the world.  A boy can hope and dream!!

Political leaders and military forces from all around what is called the western world and other more evolved countries/areas have been trying to intervene diplomatically and otherwise with force to try and figure out how to create some semblance of peace, civility and to provide and establish basic daily living conditions (daily needs: housing, food, plumbing, medical care, etc.) for the populations of people in the region for well over a few hundred years without success. 

Without looking up a historical reference, if I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure the violence, strife, hatred, killing, far from humanitarian behavior activities, sectarian violence due to biases and other prejudiced fueled and other uncivilized behaviors have been going on in the region for thousands of years. 

Nobody has been able to fix it no matter which approaches they have attempted.  It's up to the people and leaders of those areas to work it out. 

I've got a few simple ideas about how to pave the way to make those areas less violent and the inhabitants being able to live decent lives daily.

#1:  Affordable housing with air conditioning.
If I had to live in and walk around in sometimes up to 130F temperatures in the desert just to find something to eat each day while the leaders are building lavish palaces and having fun shooting people and blowing things up I'd be pretty pissed off too. 

#2: [Related to #1] Leaders, use some of that $$ you get from selling the oil you keep pumping out of the earth below you to fund idea #1.  If you do that you won't miss a dime and will still have plenty of $$ for everything you desire.

#3: Better infrastructure, use some of the oil $$ revenue to improve that stuff, you've got plenty of land to develop things on.  Dubai, Saudi Arabia and a few other places are doing a good job of that on small plots of land in the area.

#4: Education.  Build more schools, colleges, etc. and educate the populations with stuff beyond stupid regime designed propaganda.  Better educated people tend to behave more civilly, rationally and less violently. 

#5: Westernized countries, stop selling weapons, artillery, ammunition and military warfare gear to unstable countries in the region.

#6: Just chill, be cool, and stop loving the AKs, RPGs and other weapons so much.  Keep them out of the hands of the young uneducated, possibly brainwashed kids.

My main view about what to do about the situations now from a USA/Western Country perspective is containment. Make sure no crazies with bombs or whatever weapons to kill get out of the countries/get over here or into other countries to use or detonate them, don't sell them/let them have any more weaponry, and then just let them work it out among themselves for now.

My short form principle:  More education, less weapons/artillery for killing and violence.  Educated people tend to behave and interact with others in much more civilized, less violent ways.

Maybe NATO or whoever else should drop-ship a bunch of books/instruction manuals along with some MREs into the bad regions.

/end_rant

PS:  Blue, RE: your post on the previous page where you criticized me. You are the one that is confused, not me.  I'm happy that you at least cut down the pirate talk for now. Maybe where you live people use aye instead of I, it sounds like local Caribbean Islands slang, but it is bad English to use on an American law school discussion forum, especially when you are talking about and wanting to have discussion about USA politics/policies/actions/elections/etc. 

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Exile LSD: GD MrZilla Foxtrot Locked Me Out
« on: February 23, 2012, 01:58:26 PM »
...cue taps... ;)

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: was going to Iraq a good idea?
« on: February 20, 2012, 12:35:05 AM »
Proud?  Aye am happy for the people in norhern Iraq who are rising from the shadow of a tyrant...the bonds the people of iraq are making with other countries....the strides our troops have made in the region...our serviceman and women are professional in Iraq...after husseins removal and arrest our military quelled a civil war...engaging the people and treated them with respect and honor...they accomplished this one town at a time...one tribe at a time...

Our opinions about the business of Germany was pretty far away but along with killing hitler we killed many Germans....many many germans...with dictators in charge of countries it is difficult to avoid bloodshed when removing them.

But look how well Germany is doing today.

Did you check out any Kurdish periodicals?

Remember...we wouldn't even be discussing Kurdistan if we and other nations hadn't removed Hussein...that is my main point.


That's a lot of opinions about the business of people pretty far away- keep your opinions, that's cool, just stop killing them.  Certainly, stop killing them and patting yourself on the back- Hilter did that. 

For many reasons, the Allies were good to the defeated- Not only did they not want it to happen again, they were sorry WWII had ever happened. 

You seem so proud of something so awful- glad it happened and anticipating it happening again with glee (there will always be people who do thing you don't like- kill them all?).

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Who will win 2012 presidential election?
« on: February 20, 2012, 12:13:53 AM »
Aye've travelled much... Europe a few times and never had a problem in even in the far east...most individuals can separate the traveller from the travellers government...

Bush being a "bad" president is a matter of opinion.... Many thought nixon was a bad president but he did open up china to the USA...so while a president may be liked for one reason he may be disliked for another reason....

The point aye was trying to make is that a news entertainer like olbermann and many in the news industry like michael isakoff tried to have or create  a Woodward and Bernstein moment and get bush removed from office or face prosecution...all failed....bush's critics never got to him the way they got to Carter....
Bush did everything he wanted, even got a second term....is it endearing? Aye don't know...but it is a quality of strength...and our presidents should appear strong even if they have weaknesses...bush's swagger and wrangler politics worked for him.  Teddy roosevelts swagger and wrangler politics worked for him as well...admirable? Endearing? aye wouldn't call it that...but a strong president?  hell, yes.

Bush was a very strong president in the face of critics....it's a fact, right?
Bush was tough.

Huh? Bush was a bad President precisely BECAUSE he didn't care about the positions of anyone else- its not an endearing quality.

Olberman was just a pundit using the contemporary issues to up his voice and airtime.  I think you maybe overestimating his importance.

Underestimating the problems of having a leader who doesn't care about anyone his people must interact with or even his own people?  Idk, you decide, but I'd rather go to Europe without having to tell people I'm Canadian so they won't kill me, because my leader pisses on everyone at will without concern or abatement.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Was going into Afghanistan a good idea?
« on: February 19, 2012, 03:54:31 PM »
surrender not only objective.  wqith afghanistan, idead stop terrorists staging attacks.  in iraq, no need do anyything:  iraq already contained.  that why gump administration make up excuse invade.


Lol...Iraq was contained? Paper or plastic, bigitboy?

Clinton not like paper nor plastic... ;D

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: was going to Iraq a good idea?
« on: February 19, 2012, 03:15:26 PM »
Please stop comparing Iraq to WWII.  Its like comparing some modern political fool, who is largely inconsequential in the scope of time and forgotten in a generation to someone as important as JC.

I'm not an isolationist, I just don't like any war, especially war that is unnecessary or avoidable.  Iraq was a blunder because the reasons for it, progressively, have been either bunk or lies- that is the problem, not the outcome.

So, say you are right, Iraq is a place of flowers and sunshine and life is really better for the people there.  Its not true but for arguments sake.  Even so, the Iraq war was still wrong, ill advised and folly.  Because there was no reason for it, not because after a decade of warfare and 100,000s dead the people there now are better off.  Lies, death and power- an age old problem and always bad.

If you really want to make a WWII comparison, we the American are analogous to Germany, the NAZIs and the Iraqis are the beaten nations of Europe.  We were the initial aggressors, not them.

Aye use it as analogy because we have forgotten about those who objected to ww 2 ...many opposed that war for many of the same reasons regarding Iraq.  And hitler like Hussein invaded his neighbors...hussein invaded Kuwait and Iran and gassed Kurds...hitler invaded Poland, Austria, and Belgium and gassed jews... ...he was a murdering dictator..like Hussein...there are many comparisons to be drawn...and aye will continue to do so...because history repeats itself...

...aye agree with our reasons for going into Iraq...aye didn't want a holocaust...aye didn 't want Hussein back in Kuwait...aye didn't want to see his sons come to power...aye didn't want to see huusein invading iran...these were some of the reasons aye agreed with going into Iraq...the outcome of ww2 took a long time to find positive changes...

With Iraq, we can read, in the present how positive changes are occurring in Kurdistan....we wouldn't even be using the word Kurdistan had we not engaged Hussein and company...

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Who will win 2012 presidential election?
« on: February 19, 2012, 02:57:38 PM »
Maddow may be the most witty person I have ever seen.  I watch her for her insanely impressive rhetoric and intellect.

I would love to see Maddow and O'rielly debate, both are equally biased, but Maddow is massively more impressive on the wit and rhetoric factor that Bill- I have laughed more than once watching him squirm solely because his counterpart disagreed, not because a good argument was presented- even Letterman outmaneuvered him, that says a lot.

Olberman is with Al Gore's network now, I think.  Its probably just as biased as Fox. 

I don't see your Bush victory argument.  Bush's blunders were Olberman's bread and butter.  If Kieth was even on Bush's radar, which he probably wasn't, I can't see how Bush "won" anything.  He's being demonized presently, sometimes justly, sometimes unjustly by more than just Olberman.


...on trying to get bush removed or prosecuted...serious issues...bush media proof facade never was broken...olberman tried...just floundered in the end...even trying to keep it going after bush left office with the water boarding issues...No Woodward and Bernstein here.

The media never touched bush...he did everything he wanted....bush wrangled and swaggered unaffected by the media...to liberals chagrin...particularly olbermann.

It's not a victory...just stronger resolve which turned the critics into ineffectual hecklers...

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: go newt go!
« on: February 19, 2012, 02:50:05 PM »
You're probably right Blue, but if he can win MI he will be a real contender.  We'll see.  Santorum is making headway and Romney is blundering, time will tell.

Even if santorum wins mich he has a long way to go....it's about who is dug in and delegates...aye think it will be a tie in Michigan.

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