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I think its funny how us prelaw people are trying to evaluate the rankings system made by T14 educated, practicing and formerly practicing attorneys. Brody himself went to HLS, practiced with Cravath, and his company includes a lot of people like this, with many former professors and authors.

We have studied the law school rankings/app/prestige system for a few months, a couple years tops...and we think we know everything to make slight changes to their system.  :P

We are dumb...get over it.

Applied to more T14s. I am waitlisted at all of them, but I thought it would have be a flat rejection for sure. I'm sure I would have received better feedback if I applied to more.

Studied for the LSAT more in my prep course. Its an incredibly easy to master test. Even though I got a decently high score in the upper 160s, I think I could have broken 170.

I can think of more dumb things that people I know did, cause I feel like I did pretty well in my planning.

Dumb things my really really smart friends who should be at Harvard law did:
-not taking a LSAT prep course and trying to study on their own cause a thousand bucks was a waste to them (ya ya we all know people who studied solo and did really super...but we also know 50 people who did take a program and did really super)
-writing a boring personal statement about why they really really wanted to be a lawyer or simply their long bio (hence making them like 80% of the app pool)
-not adding a diversity statement simply because they were white
-getting recs last minute (think December), a lot of times from professors who barely knew them or didn't know them AT ALL
-applying too late
-not applying non-binding early decision to schools...a lot have it, and its less pressure, with easier acceptance

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Transferring
« on: April 26, 2005, 02:23:54 AM »

Yahoo transfer group. Really helpful.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: No BSing...whats your score?
« on: April 26, 2005, 02:18:53 AM »
No matter how hard i try i can only get 88%. WTF. I have slow hands.  :P

Law School Applications / Re: Test Masters Vs. All other test preps
« on: April 26, 2005, 02:16:31 AM »
Good luck. You are about to embark on something really really really frustrating...and the lsat is only the beginning.

Law School Applications / Re: Test Masters Vs. All other test preps
« on: April 26, 2005, 02:15:36 AM »
TM for sure. Most time spent, etc etc...stuff you can read on their website/flyers. I have taken the testmasters course at ucla twice. My first diag. was a 148, my final real score was 166. My friends at usc, harvard, vanderbilt, boalt, hastings, ucla, uva, nyu...pretty much everyone and their mom, took TM. I overheard people talking about other programs on my test date...but thats all ive heard of them. Of all my friends in law school, only 2 did not take TM, and they studied by themselves. They got a 159 and 164...but honestly they are much sharper and studious than me, and I figure they should have gotten low 170s with TM if they had the money.

My advice:
-Dont fall behind, do ALL the homework
-Do homework problems like its a real test...and time yourself (i did this by blocking off a section of logical reasoning or 4 to 5 games and timing myself for 35 min) you get really good
-Dont fall behind, do ALL the homework
-Its ok to focus on what you suck at, I did.
-Dont fall behind, do ALL the homework

At the end of two months you will really surprise yourself at how good you are at taking the test. Not necessarily smarter or anything like that...just really really good at taking the test. TM teaches you to take the test, nothing else.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Transferring
« on: April 26, 2005, 02:05:51 AM »
Your LSAT score and undergrad GPA aren't really relevant when you transfer. It's all about the first year grades. If that person is in the top 10 then they have a great chance. Columbia, Boalt, Michigan, UCLA, Northwestern, and Georgetown are known for being particularly transfer friendly schools. It depends what school you want to go to. Harvard, Yale and Stanford mostly take people for transfer that they waitlisted the year before. Chicago takes a handful of transfers. Virginia takes a handful too. NYU usually takes transfers from other NY law schools but I'm sure that they take people outside of NY. I don't know about Penn, Cornell or Duke. UT announced that they have expanded the number of transfer they will take for the next coming years to 35.

If you go to the transfer group on yahoo, you can see that a number of tier 1 people who received grades over a 3.7 were just accepted to Georgetown for early decision. Good luck.

"Hello.  I am curious how difficult it is to transfer into one of the top 10 schools.  I have heard that transferring between law schools is much more difficult than between undergraduate schools.  Say, however, that a candidate is ranked among the 10 top people of his class, has a high LSAT score (~170), and is currently at a low tier 1 law school.  How much difficulty would that student have transferring to one of the top 10 law schools?


Sh*T. I have been spending weeks trying to look for info on law school transfers relating to what schools are friendly. After all my search, I found out that GULC, UCLA, Boalt, Michigan, and Columbia were all good to go. Now i realize all I had to do was search for this thread on lsd. SH*T. Anyway...does anyone else have any other good advice for transfer schools relating to specific T20 schools? I am already a member on the yahoo board...but want more!

Where should I go next fall? / Re: What do people think of Davis?
« on: April 26, 2005, 12:15:44 AM »
Dude dutchman...looking at your lsn stats. What are your plans?!?! It looks like your law school application map is like a jigsaw of so many different types of schools in so many different areas of the US, both rural/urban, east/west/south, top20/second tier. Did you just sorta put the idea net out there and see what came about to see where you are going? Cause now I think I should have done that...

Where should I go next fall? / Re: What do people think of Davis?
« on: April 26, 2005, 12:11:56 AM »
I don't understand how Davis is "isolated." Davis is, reportedly, 15 miles from Sacramento, a city of 1.8 million.

official sacramento population: 407,018

close, but no cigar on that one ;)
Oh, seriously....

Like I said, still twice as big as Orlando (200,000 city; 1 million metro). And I feel OH-so-isolated here! Must be the gridlock traffic! I guess everyone knows that only cities above...what 2 million??...aren't isolated! Silly me!

Bro, I think you may be missing part of the point. True, some of these big cities have the numbers, but they don't have the culture to back it up. LA, NYC, SF, and a few more are cities with culture. Orlando Is isolated because of this.

There is actually a field of sociology devoted to this concept. Such world cities share certain cultural and diversity characteristics that enable them to be larger business, industrial, and cultural centers. Many of these cities have hosted 2+ olympics and other world events. Cities like Houston, Dallas, Miami, Seattle are considered second world cities according to these scholars, LA, NYC, Chicago are first world cities. Places like Sac TOWN are not even listed and categorized.

please refrain from mentioning the lakers... :'(

Sorry....DODGERS!  ;D

You people aren't better than us, if that's your implication.

My whole purpose of creating this post was exactly that...we are better than you  :)

There is no real racism or sexism or homophobia on XOXO. It is all a big joke. For example, do you know what came before rap music? It was something called 'toasting' where people would toast their friends or enemies with lyrical rhymes that were eventually set to beats. When you toast someone you say things that you don't truly mean, because it's a carnival. In the carnival, roles reverse, men dress like women, and the order is changed. So it is with XOXO. But underneath all of it, you will always get valuable information and help. I am arrow, and I love that board so dearly that I die a little when people bash it. Please don't bash XOXO. We don't bash LSD on our board.

See, this is funny...cause from what I read on xoxo all the time. People aren't joking. that board has too many wanna be lawyers who think all attorneys do is argue. And it ends up being a shouting match of sh*t talk with each side calling each other a poopy head and then getting moms, sisters, how ugly you are involved. It just gets really old...and I stand by my comment that most kids on that board are whiny pieces of sh*t who could never say that sorta stuff in they need to vent on a board. And like I also said, it happens here too...but on xoxo its a rule or something.

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