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I called today, actually. The woman said that all people on hold (she corrected me when I said deferred) should hear back before the end of March. She said they're starting to dig into the bulk of them pretty soon.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: more on negotiating for more $
« on: February 28, 2005, 12:29:02 PM »
For GW, I'd bet no. I met with their dean of admissions and financial aid on Friday and asked the same question using GMU money & my Cornell acceptance. He said that it's basically a matter of choices for you to make, and that GW has already offered much more money this year than any past year - he said the committee there feels as if they may have offered more than their budget can afford.

That being said, he said that if you felt you had a circumstance that could warrant an aid increase, you should write a letter to that effect. The worst they can do is say no.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / GW/GMU Visit
« on: February 28, 2005, 06:15:21 AM »
Checked out George Washington on Friday morning and George Mason on Friday afternoon, just wanted to pass along some of my thoughts.

First, G-dub. I sat in on a Con Law class, met with admissions people, took a stroll around the campus and area myself, and then took a guided tour. The professor was great, very organized and clear. The admissions people were helpful answering a number of different questions I had. The students there were extremely friendly and eager to answer any questions I had, and all pretty much had glowing recommendations about the place. Lots to do in the area, obviously, and a lot of law-related and unrelated student groups. Thursday night bar nights, and sometimes the student bar association just puts out free beer & food in a common area for people to socialize. To a man, the people I talked to appeared to be doing well academically, but without killing themselves, which was nice to hear. The atmosphere seems very collegial, everyone seems willing to help out with notes, studying, etc. Two different students that I talked to told me they had gone out to lunch and/or dinner with several of their professors their 1L year - pretty impressive for a school of GW's size. One even told me that her professor had memorized the facebook, and on the first day walked into class and started calling on people by name.

It was slow at George Mason because it was a Friday, early afternoon - the admissions people were really nice and helpful, but there weren't many students around. For those of you applying there, definitely visit before you decide to attend (duh). The law school is in one building, which is new but kind of sterile, on the Arlington campus of GMU, a couple blocks from the Virginia Square Metro. Their library is rather small, although I was informed that they have an exchange program with GW & GULC. I gathered it was a lot less social than the atmosphere at GW, although a number of people live in the Ballston/Clarendon areas and will hang out together in the evenings. I was showed some interesting stats on GMU by the admissions office about who chose to go where in 1999, and then in 2004. I can't remember exactly, but I think in 1999 15 people chose to go to GMU over American after being accepted at both, while last year 48 people chose GMU. The # for GMU versus GW was 4 in 1999, and 22 in 2004. That being said, I found their Dean of Admissions' honesty really refreshing. She got her JD at Yale, and asked where I had applied/been accepted. When I mentioned Harvard, saying I admittedly knew I was a big longshot, she didn't mince words. It was something to the effect of...

"If you get in there, then forget here. You've just gotta go there."

Any questions anybody has out there, let me know.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: For people with Engineering/Science background
« on: February 18, 2005, 04:57:30 AM »
I'll bite.

I'm planning to practice patent law, but there are two caveats. One, I am open to other types of law, I'm going to see where law school takes me. Two, my major was engineering & management, which was similar to industrial engineering, but with more MBA-type classes, as well as electrical, mechanical, and civil engineering courses. I have applied to take the patent bar, and I should be qualified to take it under Category B, Option 4, but you never know.

I think my major should help me a lot because it cut across a lot of different engineering & science majors, but also threw in practical business courses. We had one course in which we designed, built, and went through the motions of patenting and marketing a product. It was in that class that patent law first started to interest me - I ended up taking 3 law courses in college (1 was required), and that solidified my interest in law in general.

I spoke with a few IP attorneys - two alumni from my school, and one of my father's college buddies. Two are partners, and one is an associate, and each one of them has loved their work - all highly recommended it.

My GPA was a 3.91, and my LSAT was a 165. I took it in October, and scored well below what I was practicing at, but I'm not shooting for HYS, so I don't care that much. To see the schools I applied to, my LSN ID is Rizz98. I'm getting married in October, so location is a big consideration for me, since my fiancée has a very good job with a defense company and we want to live in the same place. I'm going to visit GW/GMU next weekend, and Cornell the weekend after that. If Penn gets around to accepting me, I'll take a trip out there. Currently, however, it looks like GW is in the lead.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Did I Get Into Cornell?
« on: February 11, 2005, 10:21:39 AM »
Are you the one that posted on there this morning?

I couldn't tell you for certain, but I believe that it's safe to say you're admitted. Congrats.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Info on George Mason decisions
« on: February 11, 2005, 10:19:43 AM »
For the record, GMU was really quick with me, as well. Complete in early December and called with an acceptance 4-5 days later. Their discussion board is very helpful, as well, despite the number of people brown-nosing and asking inane questions on it.

And FYI, from Anne Richard on the GMU prospective students site - keep your eyes open next week:

We have only sent out acceptances thus far. We hope to send out a large group of decisions next week. These decisions will include acceptances, denies and invitations to the wait list.

We will continue to review complete files and send out decisions as quickly as possible.

Thank you for your interest in George Mason.

-- Anne Richard

Choosing the Right Law School / $$ at GMU
« on: February 10, 2005, 01:14:25 PM »
Just got a call from Anne Richard at George Mason. She said that I'd be receiving a scholarship offer in the mail in the next few days. $12K for the first year, $5K for each of the 2nd & 3rd years.

I called them and they told me over the phone... i thought I would get a full-ride or close to it... is there any way of "negotiating" scholarships?

Sure there is.

You: "You guys are f-ing TOURO! You should be PAYING ME to come to your school!"

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UPenn deferrals
« on: February 09, 2005, 12:25:16 PM »
Sure, it felt great at first...until you see that they've deferred everyone and their brother. Even though much of that is probably yield protect (I keep telling myself this), it's frustrating. I applied early to hear back earlier, not just to give myself a better shot.

Funny thing as I looked at the LSN stats for Penn. Roughly half of the applicants have had decisions made either way. Out of those decisions, about 1/4 were rejected, 1/3 were accepted, and over 40% were either deferred or waitlisted! They're putting this off as long as possible. Also, the ones waitlisted have a higher average GPA (3.79) than either accepted (3.72) or deferred (3.69); the latter two don't even have a discernable difference. Of course, the GPA for accepts is 171.6 compared to 166.3 & 167.7. So there ya go.

Choosing the Right Law School / UPenn deferrals
« on: February 09, 2005, 09:49:08 AM »
So what's the smart money say as to when the dozens of us who were deferred from UPenn will hear back from them? All at once, or a trickle-down?

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