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Ave Maria / Re: Ave Maria Scholarship Retention
« on: April 22, 2014, 10:47:32 AM »
The 3.0 GPA requirement is a something used by most law schools. It is a bit misleading and you are right to ask this question.

Law school is much different than undergrad in that law school is based on a strict curve. At most schools only 35% of the first year class can have a 3.0 GPA, which means there is a 65% chance any scholarship student will not keep their scholarship for years two and three.

It is also important to understand everyone is smart, hard working, and motivated and on the first day of school everyone thinks they will be in the top 10% of the class and there is no way they will not be in the top 35%, but you do not need to be math major to understand how that plays out when first year grades come out.

With that said you might want to negotiate for more favorable scholarship conditions. As an incoming law student say I will attend if you give me a scholarship subject to merely being in good academic standing or something less difficult than a 3.0.

Many law students do not realize they are paying customers and should do everything they can to get the best deal possible. Congrats on getting a scholarship and your acceptance to law school.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Should I defer?
« on: April 22, 2014, 10:35:21 AM »
You should not defer unless you have a good reason. Why are you considering deferring until next year?

You can get into a number of schools, but Harvard, Yale, etc will not be on the list.

Visit for Suffolk here is the link for the past few years there. Someone was put on the waitlist with a 2.33 and 161 LSAT this year.

You can also use the site Maintain FL lists the LSAC Official Guide to Law School.

You might also want to consider other Boston area schools like New England; Western New England; and maybe even University of New Hampshire.

a 165 is a solid LSAT score and I think you can be accepted into a number of schools.

Good luck.

Law School Applications / Re: Third Tier Admission
« on: April 18, 2014, 02:04:28 AM »
If you look at for West Virginia with a 2.04 and obtain a 155 it looks like you might have a chance. .

As for the MBA I do not think you should pursue that path if your ultimate goal is law school. Law school admissions like at undergrad GPA and LSAT. Grad school grades are not taken that seriously most grad schools hand out A's like candy, which is why law school admissions do not take them seriously.

I think you take the LSAT and apply to West Virginia. The admission standards are not that difficult, but you need to get a decent LSAT score to overcome the 2.04 GPA, but it can be done.

Good luck. 

St. Thomas (Florida) / Re: Summer conditional program
« on: April 14, 2014, 07:59:27 PM »
I think the majority of posters on this board now are quite supportive. I agree with everything you said in your post and at the end of the day if a law school gives you a bar exam ticket you can pass the bar become a lawyer and succeed.

Obviously, Harvard will open more doors than Cooley, but there are graduates from Harvard that never passed the bar or were disbarred and there are Superlawyers from Cooley.

Whether you succeed in the legal profession has a lot more to do with you than the name of your law school.

Yea I think an EJD overall is a bad I never heard of it and just looked it up. If you really want to work in the law and cannot get admitted to law school you would be much better served by obtaining a Paralegal Certificate.

I am almost always very open to anyone pursuing an education, but this EJD feels almost fraudulent. They are making it sound like a J.D, but it is not a J.D and will not entitle you to take the Bar Exam. It also does not appear that you will learn the skills of becoming a paralegal either.

If you want to go to law school attend a school that will allow you to take at least one state's bar exam.

Again, I encourage you to retake the LSAT or pursue a paralegal certificate. Good luck.

General Board / Re: Where should I go in FL?
« on: April 14, 2014, 07:45:57 PM »
Awesome congrats on your decision hopefully the ASD at Florida gives you a good feeling and you can be on with your legal education. It is a very liberating moment when you make the final decision, but it is a very hard choice to make. I am sure everything will work out and I wish you the best of luck as your pursue a legal education.

Feel free to post on this board with questions as you begin law school there are a few very helpful posters on this site.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Considering Law School
« on: April 11, 2014, 10:09:28 PM »
I do not think anyone should attend law school if they do not intend to practice law. You can get into politics, lobbying, etc without a law degree and spending three years of the prime of your career development obtaining a degree in something your not interested in doing seems like a waste of time.

It is true a law degree will not hurt you, but neither would attending medical school,  having six pack abs, or volunteering 30 hours a week at the soup kitchen. You can do all kinds of things with your time, but it is not unlimited and three intense years spent learning something you are not interested in does not seem like the best use of your time.

That is my two cents, but I am an anonymous internet poster so take my advice with a grain of salt.

Good luck whatever you decide to do.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: FIU VS FSU LAW
« on: April 11, 2014, 02:09:07 AM »
Functional it is good you are working in a firm.

I really think you should go into courtrooms and see how it works in practice. The name of a law school will not come up once, and I strongly encourage any incoming law student to attend court hearings.

Also watch lawyer walks into a bar it profiles several graduates as they study for the bar. You can see the various personalities and you look up where each of them ended up. Some succeeded others did not and I am sure while watching the movie you will like some of the individuals and dislike others, and you will not care what school they attended.  t From my observation that is how it works in the real world at the end of the day you get along with certain people or you don't. 

From your posts it really seems like your leaning towards FSU and your gut is telling you that is the school, which is great. I really encourage you to listen to your and not cloud your head with stats, whether employers will think you are loyal by staying at one institution, etc, etc. You can get yourself way off course by over thinking and one of the main things to remember when you start law school is not to over think. Keep things simple it is much easier said than done, but it is how you succeed.

Again, take any advice here with a grain of salt, but it really seems like FSU is what you want so why fight it?

Remember however, that neither FSU, FIU or any law school guarantees you a job and it is up to you whether you succeed.  Go visit the FSU law school campus right now and talk to 3L's I am sure a month before graduation most of them have nothing lined up and are freaking out this is the way law school has worked for years, but in a year from now most of them will have passed their respective state bars and starting their careers, but it takes time.

In the end I  I am sure you will do fine at any school, but it seems like FSU is your choice.  I wish you the best of luck in your pursuit of a J.D.

I think you should wait 6 months and reapply. You might want to reevaluate everything and possibly retake the LSAT. Law school is not going anywhere, and you might want to take a few months to really study for the LSAT to make sure you are ready for the rigors of law school.

Good luck.

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