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That even screwed some people in law school that were on journals etc they would get pass/no pass and other 2ls/3ls took sports law and got A's which helped their class rank

That's  true, but you can work the system early and get A's in frisbee golf etc.

As groundhog's post accurately says "no".

For all intents and purposes your classes mean very little it is just the grades you get. I got so many b.s. A's for playing basketball in college and my GPA was artificially inflated, which helped me in the admissions process.

If your only a freshman I also would not worry to much about law school etc. Get the best possible grades you can to keep your doors open, but enjoy the college experience. It will be a life changing time in your life and many people that are deadset on going to law school in college change their mind due to numerous circumstances and many others such as myself that said they would never attend law school end up going.

So the best thing you can do is keep your GPA high so that if you want to pursue law school the door is open, but don't get to caught up in whether you are taking the right math class your Freshman year of college. It means nothing as far as law school admissions go.

Congrats on getting into college and enjoy your time! 

News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: July 01, 2015, 03:15:17 PM »
When his citizenship becomes an issue the obvious solution is trial by armwresting between Arnold and Scalia.

That is what the founding fathers would have wanted.

News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: June 30, 2015, 07:08:25 PM »

The man in that video should be President haha. Pretty impressive that Predator featured not one, but two state governors. Why not take it one step further with a President/VP 

How could you not support a Schwarzenegger/Ventura ticket.

As latin says nobody will make a decision on your application until you have an LSAT score. There is nothing wrong about applying first, but as latin says you might be wasting your money applying to schools you don't have a chance at. More importantly you will use energy on your applications opposed to studying for the LSAT.

So in response to your question should you apply before the LSAT? I would say no, but you can do it.

As an additional piece of information you should attend an LSAC forum. Here is a list of the ones coming up. . If you register you will get a bunch of e-mails saying if you stop by X schools booth they will give you a fee waiver and when I attended the forum in NY I wrote my LSAC number at almost every schools booth and they sent me a fee wavier. This saved me about $1,000-$1,500 on fee waivers and also allowed me to get a bunch of scholarship money to various schools, which I used as leverage for more scholarship money at the schools I really wanted to attend.

So basically if you are close to any of the cities where an LSAC forum is then attending will be a great cost savings and it will also be informative.

Good luck. 

There is absolutely no harm in applying early and telling them you are taking the LSAT that I am aware of. However, I am just a random person on the internet and you would be better served by calling the admissions office of each school you are applying to. I know this can be a bit scary when you are a nervous 0L, but the admissions department is there to answer these exact questions and nobody will know more about the admissions process at an individual school than the people in charge of the admissions process at the individaul school.

Your LSAT score will be the main factor and focus on getting a good score, but having your applications on file early certainly will not hurt you.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Paralegal to Lawyer?
« on: June 23, 2015, 01:15:18 PM »
Maintain is offering great advice.

However, like most potential 0L's you are putting the cart before the horse. Your only focus at this point is to get the best LSAT score you possibly can and as Maintain said odds are you will not get a 168-170, but I hope you do. However, even if you get a 153 there are plenty of ABA schools that will accept you. It is important to realize that 99% of lawyers/judges did not attend the top 1% of law schools or score in the top 1% of the LSAT.

This is also true when you enroll in law school whether you attend Harvard or Cooley there is a 90% chance you will not finish in the top 10% of your class. Most law students have a hard time accepting this, because at every ABA school 100% of the students are smart, hard-working, motivated people and 100% of them think they are finishing in the top 10%, but obviously 90% can't.

As to your specific question your paralegal experience won't hurt and it is good that you got your feet with the law before jumping in. However, most incoming law students have some legal experience prior to enrolling in law school and it is not something that will set you apart, but it certainly does not hurt.

However, first and foremost do the best you can on the LSAT and look at your options. Once you have an LSAT score this is a great article about choosing a law school.

Perfect post Loki.

As he said the LSAT is a test of aptitude and odds are you will not get a 170 no matter how much money you pay to the various test services. They might increase your score slightly, but you could probably also do it for self study.

To make an analogy Matthew Deladova a decent NBA basketball player could take all the classes, train with the best and spend millions of dollars he is never going to be better at basketball than Lebron James even if he sits on his ass and eats donuts all day. Lebron just has 100x more natural talent.

I don't know what your aptitude is, but if you take a practice LSAT odds and say you get a 151 with no study the most you could probably increase is to 160.  I think intense study at the absolute most can raise 10 points based on the factors Loki mentions learning a few of the tricks, but if you have a 3.1 UGPA and got an 1100 SAT the odds of you getting a 170 are extremely low. You could probably get a 155-160 and get into a number of ABA schools, but the chances of Harvard are slim to none.

So to sum it up as Loki says be wary of services that over promise you will have your natural limit. This is just one of the many steps during the law school process where using common sense is paramount.



Where should I go next fall? / Re: Stay local or move on?
« on: June 23, 2015, 12:20:01 PM »
I agree with Maintain what you should focus on first and foremost is getting an LSAT score. Plenty of people score far higher on the practice tests myself included, because I gave myself a few extra seconds or took a break here and there. Not to mention to the pressure of the real thing is harder than a practice.

I hope you get a 160 hell a 180, but until you have a real LSAT score there is not much point in thinking about schools. Focus all your law school admission energy on the LSAT now and once you have options really think about what is best.

To answer the question if your goal is to live in the area you are living in go to a school in the area preferably the cheapest option.

I never think it is a good idea to move from the area you want to live in for any school.

Once you have an LSAT score this is a good article outlining how to choose a law school.

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