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Current Law Students / Re: Law school and relationships
« on: May 01, 2006, 10:56:25 AM »
I would just like to hedge my earlier posted opinion on this matter by saying that it was not fiction-based if you know what I mean, so since it seems we are keeping some kind of scoreboard here, chalk one more up under "lawschool = splitsville".  I'm not just spouting bull here (I know it can be hard to tell the difference, but maybe at least I am putting my skills to good use with this crazy career choice of mine).

But in all seriousness, I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea (or curse my unborn children with defects if you are prone to that kind of mental instability) that I am discouraging you from giving it your best shot, although it's conceivable to infer from some of these heated responses that I may have indeed touched some nerves.  I'm just saying that while there are always going to be exceptions, I think the odds really are stacked against you.  That's just my own opinion, albeit a widely shared one.  I certainly wish everyone better luck than I had and if you think you can beat it, then by all means beat it.  There are some people who get married at 17 and stay happy their whole lives. 

While I undertsand the analogy of adult law students to high school is not a perfect one, you still have to admit... You know damn well it's not the first time the two have been so compared!  There are a lot of human personality traits I have seen surface in law school that had been apparently dormant since since senior prom, so don't be so quick to dismiss it.

By the way, I certainly don't disagree with Dxion and bob that maturity is an important factor.  It is to a large degree in any relationship; I'm not all afraid to say that immaturity probably has a lot to do with my own situation.  Although in the end I have to say I like Dxion's analysis the best:  We're just too damn smokin' hot for own good!

Why do you think DOWNY was disgusting? 

Current Law Students / Re: Law school and relationships
« on: May 01, 2006, 03:09:15 AM »
I'm not saying it's impossible, but I think it's roughly about as realistic as the high school senior heading off to college who says that they plan to remain with their significant other who is entering their senior year of high school.
You'll (almost) never catch me speaking in absolutes, so you really don't defeat anything I said simply by producing an exception.

Person X: Indeed it's true, almost all alligators are green and black.
Person Y: NO! That's NOT true and you will have weak children with physical deformities!  This alligator is white.  White alligators will never be green.  Good luck to you.

If that's what passes as a valid argument to you, then good luck to you my friend.  (I'm going to go ahead and skip the commentary about what your girlfriend looks like and the fate of your unborn children or whatever that little episode was all about.)

Current Law Students / Re: How long to repay student loans
« on: April 29, 2006, 11:41:44 PM »
I think it should be pointed out again that there is no reason to be paying off student loans unless it is the only debt of any kind that you have to your name.  Pay off your house, your car, your credit cards, anything else.  If you even have a balance on a gas card and you're paying extra on your student loans, you're throwing money away.  You can't argue with the interest rates.

Current Law Students / Re: Law School Prep Books
« on: April 29, 2006, 11:25:57 PM »
I will say this:

I'll agree with the above poster in the sense that it probably would be very useful to learn some basic vocabulary, especially procedural, for when you start reading cases.  Things like summary judgment, writ of certiorari, assignments of error, petitioner, respondent, default judgment, etc.  It will be a lot less confusing when you start reading cases the first week.  If I remember, even keeping appellees and appellants straight took a little while at first.  A little research on the appellate structure of the state and federal court systems would probably be helpful too.

Current Law Students / Re: Social Life?
« on: April 28, 2006, 11:06:22 PM »
You will find that what free time you have, you will not want to spend going out and living it up like you used to.

Things like sleep and couch time will become priceless.  Outdoor exercise will also be at a premium.  Drinking tends to come in rare celebratory binges but you will not have the energy to imbibe and socialize as often.  You won't even miss it as much as you think you will. 

Sleep will become your #1 favorite recreation.

Current Law Students / Re: We're almost done with 1L year!
« on: April 28, 2006, 10:59:07 PM »
Since nothing is materially that hard at all, I'm not sure I understand the difference between "hard" and "busy".  I thought the only thing hard about the first year was that we were so busy we didn't have time to slow down and absorb the material that in itself was not that hard.  Can anyone explain?

Basically, I can't imagine the second year really being much easier or much busier.  For example, Civ Pro...  Hard stuff?  Heck no.  Lots of stuff?  Jesus Christ.

Current Law Students / Re: Law school and relationships
« on: April 28, 2006, 10:47:11 PM »
The odds are stacked against you.  The fact that you will both be busy is NOT a blessing.  It means that you will NEVER see each other.  The rare free time opportunities you have will simply not coincide with the rare free time opportunities she has.  You will grow apart.

All this while you are going through the most substantial personal changes you will have gone through since you were a teenager.  All you will ever seem to talk about is things she doesn't understand with people you know very, very well whom she doesn't know at all.

By the end of your first year, you will have two separate lives heading in two separate directions that you don't figure into.  Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

Both busy?  You're going to busy yourselves right out of each others' lives.  We have had 2 divorces in my section, and conversations about significant others are really off-limits because everyone understands that they are all unpleasant if not downright depressing.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but I think it's roughly about as realistic as the high school senior heading off to college who says that they plan to remain with their significant other who is entering their senior year of high school.

Current Law Students / Re: Finals
« on: April 26, 2006, 04:41:09 PM »
There are "open book" exams??

Seriously, I have only one that is (Criminal Justice).  None last semester.

Current Law Students / Re: Abortion
« on: April 26, 2006, 07:58:07 AM »
If a child's property rights don't have any legal effects until emancipation or majority anyway, why would a legislature ever have to make some kind of distinction about the property rights of an unborn fetus?  How is this a stalemate?  And what is the connection to abortion?

That's all very interesting.  Yet it does not answer any one of my four questions.  Remember, I am talking about "effects".   Not fictions. 

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