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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Criminal Record... what to expect
« on: June 29, 2008, 04:11:59 PM »
Only advice I would give, on top of what has already been given in this thread, is to get your record expunged. If the convictions occurred in Illinois, it is a very fairly simple process. Good luck.

Record expungement doesn't matter for the Board of Bar Examiners. You still have to tell them about it.

Honestly, since these were so recent, you may have some trouble. Some schools won't touch you. Its really the pot charge that is the hang up. The MIP isn't a big deal at all. You do know that you also may be inelligible for government loans because of the pot charge right?

Some State Bars may not certify you either. (i.e. Florida)

You are 100% wrong with everything you said.

1) You get an expungment to show you have moved past the issue, grown up and taken steps to rectify the mistake.

2) A pot charge does not mean *&^%. If it is not a felony, he will not only get into law school, but he will pass the bar.

3) Don't give advice if you are clueless.

You aren't even a 1L, I can tell by your responses, yet you are giving advice about what is a concern and what is not a concern with the bar. Attorneys won't even give the kind of advice you are, unless they are character and fitness examiners.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 153 3.13, what do you think?
« on: June 27, 2008, 11:22:41 PM »
BTW OP, have you considered Cooley?

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Criminal Record... what to expect
« on: June 27, 2008, 11:20:29 PM »
Only advice I would give, on top of what has already been given in this thread, is to get your record expunged. If the convictions occurred in Illinois, it is a very fairly simple process. Good luck.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 153 3.13, what do you think?
« on: June 27, 2008, 11:14:27 PM »
Dont go to law school. Youll thank me


I get really tired of reading posts like these. Just because you have an average score doesn't mean you will not enjoy a legal career. And you do not have to get at least a 160 to be personally successful in law school and beyond. Sure, someone going to a T3 school may not make six figures upon graduation, but maybe that is not the reason he/she chose to go to law school. This board is turning me off more and more... perhaps that is why there are so few people on here like me who are going somewhere besides a tier one.

Out of my 6 legal internships during undergrad, my most memorable and the one I learned the most from was with an attorney who graduated from Cooley. He enjoyed every minute of coming into work and at the end of the day, he was definitely NOT starving.

A 153 will not limit your abilities nor will it mean you will be unhappy in your career choice. It does not mean you should not go to law school. There is so much more one can do with a law degree besides bragging about what ranking their law school placed and about how much money they make.

I have heard from many hiring partners and corporate general counsels, that if you do not get into a high T2 or better, you are wasting your money. Not my opinion, theirs.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Loyola Chicago job prospects
« on: June 25, 2008, 10:46:24 PM »
Chicago BigLaw is competitive.  Really?  It seems like there are many firms in a relatively small city.

Are you kidding me?

1) Chicago is a very large city. In fact it is the 62nd largest city in the world, and the 3rd largest city in the United States, as was previously pointed out.

2) BigLaw is competitive everywhere, especially in a soft economy. Hopefully, bankruptcy work picks up and takes the place of mergers and acquisitions.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Loyola Chicago job prospects
« on: June 25, 2008, 09:24:48 PM »
I was wondering what the job prospects would be for a Loyola Chicago grad looking to work in the New York City area? I'd assume they would not be too attractive, but I'd still like to hear what people think. And I'm not just talking about Big Law, I'm talking about any legal jobs. Thanks for your responses...

I don't know, because I am not a hiring partner at a firm, but I did ask a hiring partner at a BigLaw firm, in NYC, about job prospects after Loyola. He said Loyola of Chicago will offer very limited opportunities outside of the Chicago area, even if you are in the top 25% of your class. He stated that Loyola may offer some Chicago area opportunities to its grads, so if you want to practice in Chicago, go to Loyola, if you want to practice in NYC, go somewhere else.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 150K -200K Debt Club...Anyone?
« on: June 14, 2008, 03:06:15 PM »
Nothing is worth this much debt. Period. I do a good deal of investing and I could take 200k, get margin turn that into 400k, and as long as I earn better than 5% I am in the clear (some stocks offer dividends alone of 7%). I have no idea why anyone would do this. I wouldn't be 200k in debt to go mars. You have one life to live, even if you land a great highpaying job, your hours suck. Of course, the people who start this path say, well I will start at 160k-200k a year and i can get rid of the debt in no time and be making bank. Hmmm

Have any of you heard of the AMT, it was a great creation by the IRS, your 160k, not eligble for any deductables, and then you ship 35% a year away to federal, not to mention state and if you live in new york, city taxes. After living expenses I would be impressed if you could put away 50k a year. If you can get into a great school, go to one a little lower ranked thats basically free. Thats what I am doing and couldn't be happier.

I don't want to be anywhere near the market right now. I'll gladly plunk down a few years worth of salary to make, easily, twice as much as I otherwise would have over the course of my life. Like you said, I only have one life, and I'll be damned if I spend it competing with high school graduates for anything.

Good, you can compete with philosophy majors and unemployed lawyers for pizza delivery jobs. You know what I enjoy the most about you? Knowing how miserable you are going to be for rest of your life, with a ton of debt you can't payoff.  ;D

Seriously, what is wrong with you? Do you ever actually contribute anything meaningful to the conversation? At best, you have lots of misinformation (see above) to spew, but that's about it.

How do you respond so quickly to my posts? This is summer before 1L. Don't you have any recreational hobbies? What about a GF?  :o

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 150K -200K Debt Club...Anyone?
« on: June 14, 2008, 12:24:02 PM »
Nothing is worth this much debt. Period. I do a good deal of investing and I could take 200k, get margin turn that into 400k, and as long as I earn better than 5% I am in the clear (some stocks offer dividends alone of 7%). I have no idea why anyone would do this. I wouldn't be 200k in debt to go mars. You have one life to live, even if you land a great highpaying job, your hours suck. Of course, the people who start this path say, well I will start at 160k-200k a year and i can get rid of the debt in no time and be making bank. Hmmm

Have any of you heard of the AMT, it was a great creation by the IRS, your 160k, not eligble for any deductables, and then you ship 35% a year away to federal, not to mention state and if you live in new york, city taxes. After living expenses I would be impressed if you could put away 50k a year. If you can get into a great school, go to one a little lower ranked thats basically free. Thats what I am doing and couldn't be happier.

I don't want to be anywhere near the market right now. I'll gladly plunk down a few years worth of salary to make, easily, twice as much as I otherwise would have over the course of my life. Like you said, I only have one life, and I'll be damned if I spend it competing with high school graduates for anything.

Good, you can compete with philosophy majors and unemployed lawyers for pizza delivery jobs. You know what I enjoy the most about you? Knowing how miserable you are going to be for rest of your life, with a ton of debt you can't payoff.  ;D

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Mercer or FIU, PLEASE HELP
« on: June 13, 2008, 02:13:22 PM »
DontQuestionMe is an idiot (90% of the time) and a flammer, ignore him.

Argumentum ad hominem.

I'm not attacking you as a person as a means of defeating your argument, I'm just pointing out that your argument shouldn't even be considered because of you as a person. There's a difference.

It's sort of like how you don't trust someone that's a known liar regardless of what they're telling you because you already know about them. Or like how convicted felons can't normally vote.

:: yawn ::

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 150K -200K Debt Club...Anyone?
« on: June 13, 2008, 02:12:53 PM »
The legal market is terrible, and we have been going through a period of economic prosperity. As the realities of a recession set in, the legal market will get even worse. There are articles monthly in the Wall Street Journal about how terrible the legal market is.

Can anyone imagine what it will be like in another year, when the economy is in a recession? How are you guys going to make $2,500/month loan payments? That is $2,500/month, after taxes. The only thing deductible on a student loan is the interest payment!

I know Georgetown Law grads, with five years experience, who are grateful to get corporate jobs making 100k/yr with benefits right now. If you make 100k/yr, you are taking home 60k after state and federal taxes. Take out your 30k/yr in student loan payments and your take home is 30k/yr.

How are you going to live in Washington D.C. or any other metro area on 30k/yr? Not to mention, forget doing what you want, you are now a slave to whatever paycheck comes along so you can make your loan payments. Furthermore, look at the opportunity cost of your time in law school. You could have gotten another job for 45k/yr, with your undergraduate degree (unless you were a philosophy major, in which case you are delivering pizzas), taken home the same 30k/yr and made an extra 135k, and not had to deal with the stress of law school and debt.

I sincererly hope that you are wrong because if not, many of us are fuxed!   :'(

Ignore him. DontQuestionMe is quite possibly the most moronic poster currently active on any message board anywhere. His post further proves that.

I love your location, you Rep FSU like it's HYS!  ;D

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