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Studying for the LSAT / Re: People PTing in the 170 - 175 range
« on: July 27, 2008, 10:33:19 PM »
When I do a timed LG section outside of a full exam (IE, just do the LG section from an older exam and don't do the LR or RC), I have no problem getting nearly all the questions done, but I can never get more than 18 to 20 done when I'm doing them in an actual testing situation. When I did the LGB I went through pretty thoroughly, but I plan on looking over it every few weeks to refresh. While I was doing it, I was scoring between 20 and 24 correct in each LG section I did, but now I'm back down to 16 to 18 correct. Oh well; I've got plenty of material to practice on.

And you were telling me you are scoring 99%+ on real tests in another thread?  ??? ???

 ::) ::)

Miss 10-15 questions and you are out of the 170s. With giving up 6-10 questions in one section, are you acing every other section?!  ??? ??? ???

 ::) ::)

 :o :o

Studying for the LSAT / Re: People PTing in the 170 - 175 range
« on: July 27, 2008, 10:28:35 PM »
Also, make sure your last 5-10 exams utilize mock experimental (5th) sections, so your endurance is fully developed. 

There is no way to prep for an experimental section, because the questions are different than actual sections. You may run into questions that don't even make sense in the experimental.

Law School Admissions / Re: Summer transcript question..
« on: July 27, 2008, 09:48:36 PM »
So.. I'm taking a self-guided summer class at home, not at my usual university, in order to just get some hours for graduation and.. have something to do. However, I've been so busy with the LSAT and moving out of my apartment and preparing for my study abroad that I've kind of.. slacked off on the class, missing entire tests. I've already sent my transcript from that school to LSAC, so it will say a class is "in progress", right? Is it absolutely necessary that I send an updated transcript once the class is over? My LSAC GPA is an unsteady 3.80000000001 or something and I don't want to break down to 3.79.. which will certainly happen if I update.

Some schools may request an updated transcript if you are a borderline candidate. Other than that, the next transcript you will need to send will be in June or July before 1L. Most schools will actually let you go until August, September, October before receiving a final transcript because if you took summer classes your final year of undergraduate school, you will probably end up with an August 31, September 15, October 1, etc. grad date on your transcript.

I am not attending a part-time program, so I cannot give you definitive advice about the nuances of a PT program. Here is what I have heard, directly from hiring partners at V100 firms:

1) No one looks at your resume and says, "Did this person go PT or FT?" I shouldn't say no one. Maybe you will have a hiring partner who went to a PT program as well. It might be a source of positive conversation during an interview.

2) BigLaw firms have hiring grids/charts. These charts list schools and then what percentage of the class a person must graduate from in order to qualify for employment at said firm. Once you are invited in for an interview, most if not all interviews, have nothing to do with the law or school, they have to do with getting to know each other and seeing if you fit the firms mold personally. Every hiring partner I have spoken with has said there is no distinction in a hiring grid/chart between PT and FT.

3) Some PT programs allow students to transfer to the FT program after their first year, others do not. You may want to inquire about this.

4) The downside to a PT program is that law school is not exactly fun. A PT program prolongs the misery another year.

5) With a lightened load, you might actually end up with better grades than you would have otherwise.

6) So far as moot court, law review, etc. you will need to contact the GULC admissions office about specifics.

7) If my only way to T14 was PT, I would probably take it. Unless, you get $$$ from another school like WUSTL, USC, Texas, etc. Then it would be a tough choice.

Good luck.

It sounds like you scored right in the middle of where you were testing. Unless something really went wrong the day of, I wouldn't retake.

I agree. There is a variance. The OP might score better, but could also score worse. 165 is respectable.

Agreed. But my scores never went directly from 160 to 170. They were trending smoothly. The slowly went down then shot up to the 170s where they stayed for awhile before coming back down to the 165s. Not exactly sure why that was, but increased confidence or less stress in life, I would guess.

On the GULC evening program, I have not seen the 25/75 UGPA and LSAT stats. Where can I find those?

2007 25th-75th percentile undergraduate GPA (part-time)     3.33-3.75

2007 25th-75th percentile LSAT scores (part-time)     160-167

Studying for the LSAT / Re: 165 LSAT- retake?
« on: July 27, 2008, 08:37:15 PM »
I've never seen a contract dispute that had to be resolved within 35 minutes..

Really? Wait until your 1L, first semester finals.  ;D

Studying for the LSAT / Re: October LSAT - can I still do it???
« on: July 27, 2008, 08:31:33 PM »
My two cents...

1) LSAT Prep is no joke. There are a lot of very smart people taking the LSAT. The only way to distinguish yourself and do better than other smart people is to be more prepared.

Can you prepare by October? Absolutely. What does it take to prepare by October? HOURS and HOURS of work EVERYDAY. I personally like this method the most, because immersion and obsession suit me.

People will give a lot of advice on how to prepare. I have heard of many different ways people have achieved 170+ scores. Most people agree the PowerScore Bible and old tests available at are a good start. One way that I know is effective in boosting your LSAT score, lots of time and effort.

2) Law school is no joke. No one enjoys law school. Law school is not meant to be enjoyed. Law school is a lot of 12 hour days. Most of us did not work that hard in undergraduate school. Law school is a polar opposite of undergraduate school. If you think you can coast through law school, you are wrong.

3) Being an attorney in BigLaw is not fun for most people. It is very rewarding. The money is rewarding, and many of us are rewarded by being the best. BigLaw is a lot of 15 hour days, and working 30 days straight.

My whole point here, is in order to be the best you have to be very prepared. Being very prepared takes a lot of time and effort. I really don't care about your personal issues. You know what your personal issues are, you know what you can or cannot handle. Likewise, you know what sacrifices you will be able to live with. I am not the moral police, I don't care if you are a good parent or not.

Just remember, BigLaw partners and law professors don't really care either. Most law school grading is anonymous. Your personal issues will be irrelevant. In order to get a decent job, you will need decent grades. The only way you will get decent grades is through a lot of work. No one will care about your personal issues at a BigLaw firm either. You perform, or you get out, period. Law is harsh, not many will argue with that.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: 165 LSAT- retake?
« on: July 27, 2008, 08:22:16 PM »
but it should be noted that schools completely disregard the score band, which is an irrelevant LSAC invention.

It should be relevant to anyone who knows what a standard deviation is.

It should also be noted that every point matters for admissions -- doesn't have to be more than 3 points.  Someone with a 167/168 will probably get into a T14 with enough effort, while someone with a 165 almost certainly will not.

Seriously, you have to be Robin Singh alt.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USC vs. Fordham
« on: July 27, 2008, 08:19:50 PM »
USC has a good football team, people on the East Coast have heard of them. Fordham... I'd honestly never heard of the school before looking into law schools.

If you're really worried about the portability of your degree, take USC.

You mention football prestige, then say you've never heard of Fordham.  ::)  ::)

That said, I'd go to USC if I was the OP.

Does Fordham even have a football team? Not really seeing where we're going with this one.

 ;D ;D

Anyone who has ever been to a USC away game knows the USC tradition, alumni network, etc. USC is a well known school with incredible opportunities after graduation.


 ;D ;D @ "Does Fordham even have a football team?" lmao.  ;D ;D

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: URichmond dilemma, please help
« on: July 27, 2008, 08:15:38 PM »
I put down more than one deposit. As soon as I changed my mind, I withdrew from where I had put down a previous deposit. With that said, I received a full ride at a school after I put down my deposit.

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