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In grazing through the charts, I notice that a large percentage of W&L grads get judicial clerkships after graduation.

Contrasting with Tulane, if one counts only the "biglaw or law firm" graduates, W&L places relatively badly.  If one counts "biglaw or law firm or clerkship", the two place about the same percentage in the three groups combined, with W&L having about a 50% edge in the "biglaw" subcategory.

As an IP nerd, I'm not really aware of what judicial clerkships mean in terms of the general career ladder.  Are they a step into politics, or government, or an intermediate stage in joining some biglaw firm and getting huge steaming wads of cash?

I guess what I'm wondering is, is this a major positive for W&L grads' chances, or is this a step down from obtaining a general small/medium law firm job?

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All --

Bill Henderson has an absolutely terrific article on law school debt vs. prestige and employment prospects over at NLJ.  He also has worked with NLJ to come up with some terrific charts on real career prospects -- the percentage of students from each school who end up in biglaw, other firms, clerkships, etc.  It's awesome data and much better than blindly relying upon USNWR.

http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1207904889498
From the later posts on this thread, it looks like most people were able to access the "regional_rankings.pdf" file that is linked from the main article.  How??  I get a "404 not found" error page when I try to use the link, and more errors when I try to dig it out.  (I'm not sure if this is a subscription issue, since it's not an "access denied" error, it's a "not found" error.)

ETA: I signed up for "free limited access" with no luck.  Is the "rankings" sub-article restricted to full subscribers?
The files are back up and available now;  looks like one of their servers was down when I was trying to get it, since I'm not getting some of the odd errors I was getting yesterday. :)

Thank you for your kind offer, PC!

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On the plus side, I hear that business for bankruptcy lawyers is booming!  ;D

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It looks like botbot is updating in the first post.  Most recent appears to be April 10th.

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All --

Bill Henderson has an absolutely terrific article on law school debt vs. prestige and employment prospects over at NLJ.  He also has worked with NLJ to come up with some terrific charts on real career prospects -- the percentage of students from each school who end up in biglaw, other firms, clerkships, etc.  It's awesome data and much better than blindly relying upon USNWR.

http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1207904889498
From the later posts on this thread, it looks like most people were able to access the "regional_rankings.pdf" file that is linked from the main article.  How??  I get a "404 not found" error page when I try to use the link, and more errors when I try to dig it out.  (I'm not sure if this is a subscription issue, since it's not an "access denied" error, it's a "not found" error.)

ETA: I signed up for "free limited access" with no luck.  Is the "rankings" sub-article restricted to full subscribers?

ETA: "nevermind".  One of their servers must have been down yesterday when I was trying to get it.   Thanks for your kind offer, PC!

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*ignores UM v Tulane thread - gotta fight the urge*
:D

Save it for the next W&L thread
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I'm still thinking/worrying/obsessing over which to choose.  Sigh.

Heeeeeeelllp, Mr. Wizzard!!!

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Good luck out there.  I can strongly recommend Saigon City (Redmond) for pho, Red Mill Burgers (6500 Greenwood), and Palisades (Magnolia -- expensive, but worth it) for romantic dinners, e.g., Valentine's Day or getting engaged/married.

Oh -- stay away from Than Bros. unless they've fixed their dishwasher.  :-X  Nothing like noticing that every pair of chopsticks is covered with grease and filth, and then realizing that the bowl they put your pho in was probably in the same shape.  :-X  :-X

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Law School Applications / Re: The Law School Laptop
« on: April 09, 2008, 05:15:44 PM »
But, heck, computer geek that I am, I also want a steady state hard drive and all the other latest and greatest.
I'm assuming you meant "solid state drive", i.e., a big block of flash memory.

Danger!  If anything happens to your computer, that SSD is almost certainly going to be unrecoverable.  Be vigilant about backups.  Daily, hourly, every-five-minutes-ly.

I have an Asus Eee.  I like it for its size, but its keyboard isn't going to be of any use when writing papers or taking notes.  And the SSD is a concern.

At least with a hard drive, you can pull it and move the data onto another computer, or in a worst-case situation, send it to a recovery center.  Short of a headcrash, the data on that magnetic platter is pretty safe once it's been written.


Would anyone like  to Opine on whether the Asus eee + a desktop would fit a law students needs?

I'm not familiar with the Asus eee, but I just googled it and it looks like it does run Windows.  Is that right?  If so, I'd suggest you steer clear of it.  Most law school exams are done on laptops using special testing software that ONLY works on Windows computers (and sometimes OS X or dual-booting Macs).  If this were the case at your school, you'd either have to rent/borrow a strange computer for your exams, or handwrite them.  Which would suck.

Did you mean to say doesn't run Windows?


yeah that's what he meant, it's linux based.   They did just release a version that runs Windows XP
In fact, they've run XP since Day One.  It's just that it's optional, not required.

I really don't think it's a suitable laptop for law school, at least not the 700 series.  The 900 series, if the keyboards are larger and better, might be good.  My Eee's keyboard has its keys in the wrong locations, and they don't always notice when they've been pressed.  The location issue makes it hard to type (at least, when you've been a touch-typist for 25+ years), and the quality problem makes that even worse.

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Thanks, Botbot.  You are *fast*.  Great food there, for those visiting.

BTW, I got the muffuletta postcard in the mail yesterday.  Tulane is clearly monitoring this board.  They're SURVEILLING me!  They've probably got my PHONE tapped!!!!  I SWEAR, I was just joking about the Cuban cigars!  And the gunrunning!!!  I've never even BEEN to Barcelona!!!!!!




Seriously, enjoyed the card, and if someone really did resend it just for me, I appreciate it. :)

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Does anyone know if "The Galley" in Metairie survived Katrina?  I tried calling a few months after, but got nothing but ring-no-answers.

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