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Current Law Students / Re: Spread The Word Before Tuesday
« on: April 22, 2008, 04:53:26 PM »
In response to txlawstu's post about the irrelevance of political dynasties to the framers, you couldn't be more wrong. I will only note a few points.

First, the age requirements to join Congress or become President were included as a check on dynastic tendencies, forcing people to prove themselves on their own merit (remember the mortality rate at the time before commenting on the requisite ages).

Second, there was much talk at the time concerning George Washington's lack of an heir and how he could be trusted because of that. Similarly, John Adams was criticized because of his sons because it was thought that he was trying to turn the U.S. into a monarchy. As you correctly note, John Quincy Adams was the 7th President, but if you look at what the second Adams had accomplished by the time he was elected president, it is plain to see that he reached the position of his own volition and not due to his famous father.

Third, the Federalist Papers talk extensively about the problems with the English dynasties and the necessity that they be avoided.

Finally, and this is telling, other than John Adams, a president with a son was not elected until Rutherford B Hayes in 1876.

See Akhil Reed Amar, America's Constitution: A Biography (2006)     

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Harvard v. Stanford v. NYU
« on: April 22, 2008, 03:47:16 PM »
Although I am partial to NYU, your academic and clerkship options will be more robust at Harvard or  Stanford. Other than that, there is not much substantive difference among the schools. NYU provides a city lifestyle and money; Harvard provides name recognition; Stanford provides amazing weather.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: T14 options - What would you do?
« on: April 22, 2008, 02:22:43 PM »
Money + prestige = UMich

Transferring / Re: NYC Tier 3 to ?????
« on: April 21, 2008, 01:46:53 PM »
First, congrats on your success so far. Second, stop posting and go back to studying as soon as possible :) As to transferring, top 5-15% at a T3 would make you competitive at Fordham, GW, BU, BC and a lock (practically) at Cardozo, Brooklyn and American. If you are at 5% or better, you would be competitive at NYU, Columbia and GULC. In addition, if you are in that 5-10% range, I recommend applying to other T14 schools. Even if you eventually decide not to leave the Eastern seaboard, at least the option would be available to you. Also, check at It provides lots of information on transferring.

Good luck!

I was not suggesting that you should not check said box. I was merely making observations and asking questions. It seems like you have made your decision. Kudos on that.

UD has nice facilities and is not in the ghetto. The GHETTO refers to an area near the school where students live.

UD has dismal employment prospects except in the immediate area. For students considering the school, that means that one should only attend if they want to practice law in that area.

I think this is a fascinating question. When can one define themselves as a URM? First, I should state that I am ignorant concerning what a C&F committee is; second, you do not have to prove your ethnic heritage to claim status as a URM; third, this is a student/graduate post, so is this for the bar/ a job? It wasn't clear from your post; fourth, the fact that your upbringing is reflective of that of urban African-Americans is irrelevant as far as your race goes. Either you are an URM or you are not. For instance, a white kid raised in an urban environment can still not claim URM status while a black kid raised in a suburban environment still can.

In the end, you are not required to prove anything but it would be profoundly disingenuous to misrepresent your heritage. You said that you are 1/8 North-African but you only found out recently. Also, you said that you are brown. What other cultures does that reflect? And, what cultures did you consider yourself part of before this discovery. If you are Middle Eastern, for example, you should keep in mind that URM status does not attach. If you are concerned, as you should be, about presenting your heritage honestly, be upfront about it. As for checking a race box, you will just have to use your best judgment.   

Current Law Students / Re: LSD is broken
« on: April 19, 2008, 10:52:42 PM »
Sideburns are fine as long as they are becoming and sufficiently professional.


Not acceptable

Current Law Students / Re: LSD is broken
« on: April 19, 2008, 10:23:49 PM »
Only a little :D But seriously, I'm staying shaggy for the summer. At least according to [insert gf's name here], I look much better that way. I don't know about you though, I've never seen you with anything besides the crew cut.

Current Law Students / Re: LSD is broken
« on: April 19, 2008, 09:51:30 PM »
Shaggy is in! Grow out the sideburns too. As long as you keep the facial hair to a minimum your firm will appreciate your fashion forwardness.

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