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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / New US News Rankings...
« on: March 27, 2009, 06:51:31 PM »

Don't they normally start to leak around this time of year?

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I agree with this. Fayetteville is better IMO (school and city). They have way more firms for OCI and all the Little Rock firms recruit Fayetteville as much or more than UALR.

I wouldn't be surprised to see UA-Fayetteville move into the Top 100 in the new rankings. It was on the very cusp last year.

Good enough, but try Fayetteville first.

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General Board / Re: I can't even get a job that doesn't pay.
« on: February 27, 2009, 10:50:33 PM »
1L or 2L? What market? (or type of market?)

add me to that boat, and i'm a top 30 school

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General Board / Re: summer offer
« on: February 27, 2009, 10:25:34 PM »
Phone call in my experience...

How do you get notified with an summer position offer?

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General Board / Re: I can't even get a job that doesn't pay.
« on: February 27, 2009, 10:24:19 PM »
Why are you such a d*ck??

I am in the top half of my class at a Top 100 law school and I can't even get a job that does NOT pay.

WTF is wrong with this world.

You do realize your avatar and sig say what school you go to right? You don't need to tell us it's a "top 100" school. Although I get the impression McGeorge is barely hanging on to that status.

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Acceptances / Re: any suprise acceptances?
« on: February 24, 2009, 04:46:42 PM »
CU??

I was accepted at CU with 158/3.66.  Excited about it.

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General Board / Re: Billing rate to salary ratio??
« on: February 22, 2009, 11:20:14 AM »
I agree that is probably close to true (your 90% theory), but you have to admit there are plenty of reasons for people not to be that into the lifestyle that BigLaw requires, even if they aren't just completely interested in public interest.

I'm married (but only 24) and don't go to school, or have a big desire to live, on one of the coasts or in a NYC/CHI/DC/LA market. I truly think I would be much happier living in say KC/DAL/MEM/STL and starting out making half of "BigLaw Market" at a smaller (10-100) firm in an area where the cost of living is equivalently half of those major markets...

I really don't think he was trying to be negative or any kind of elitist NZP. Honestly, it seems like you ARE bitter about something because there was nothing in his post to prompt you to attack him like that....

Thanks for sharing your experience DudeMan. I'm not sure I really want BigLaw either (not that I am purporting to even have the option at this point since I am a 1L and not T14) due to the lifestyle, but it is good to hear first-hand from associates like you so that I know the real deal.

Well, I don't jerk around due to the absence of the tool. I don't have a chip on my shoulder simply because I go to a lower tier law school and what's more important I have no desire to work for a biglaw firm because of the crazy hours and dicking around involved in it. Moreover, I don't have time to "jerk around alone in my room on the weekend" because I have kids and a life. I see where you are coming from though ;) Poor dude man, do you want some chocolate chip cookies with milk before bed?  ::)

Just bust your butt and don't rely on OCI alone.  Send out mass direct writes, they pay off.

NZP is obviously bitter about something.  Though, if she's middle-aged with a family and going to some crappy law school it's likely because her husband left her and she's trying to do something with her life, but always falls short. 

Also, 90% of the people on these boards that say they don't want biglaw, could never get it.  Interesting.... lol.

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General Board / Re: Preparing for Law Review Competition ?
« on: February 22, 2009, 11:11:25 AM »
Wow, I guess I am a confused 1L!

Can someone explain to me how the write-on comp usually works? I thought that everyone just sort of wrote a brief/memo on a common topic and the best ones were chosen. That isn't even from any information I was actually given, I guess I just assumed that.

Can someone explain!?

re: Bluebook prep--

I took LegalApp's advice last year and treated the bluebook as a 'final exam' during the study period. If your school places heavy emphasis on an edit portion, this is good advice. It has also helped me immensely in writing and editing in lots of other matters (esp. my summer job).

Ivan


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General Board / Re: Billing rate to salary ratio??
« on: February 20, 2009, 05:31:33 PM »
I really don't think he was trying to be negative or any kind of elitist NZP. Honestly, it seems like you ARE bitter about something because there was nothing in his post to prompt you to attack him like that....

Thanks for sharing your experience DudeMan. I'm not sure I really want BigLaw either (not that I am purporting to even have the option at this point since I am a 1L and not T14) due to the lifestyle, but it is good to hear first-hand from associates like you so that I know the real deal.

Well, I don't jerk around due to the absence of the tool. I don't have a chip on my shoulder simply because I go to a lower tier law school and what's more important I have no desire to work for a biglaw firm because of the crazy hours and dicking around involved in it. Moreover, I don't have time to "jerk around alone in my room on the weekend" because I have kids and a life. I see where you are coming from though ;) Poor dude man, do you want some chocolate chip cookies with milk before bed?  ::)

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General Board / Re: Billing rate to salary ratio??
« on: February 19, 2009, 09:11:43 AM »
Cool thanks!

Infirmation.com has salary scales listed for most larger firms.  They often have salary per billable hour (usually works out between $50-70/hr.).

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