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General Board / Re: Universal First Year Cases (In any class)
« on: July 22, 2008, 10:54:38 AM »
My suggestion would be to listen to the podcasts of Life of a Law Student (do a google search or search in the itunes store).  I listened to all the ones for first year classes before law school started.  It won't exactly give you a feel for the language of the cases, but it will give you an excellent overview of the law in those areas.

Its certainly not a substitute for reading the cases during the semester, but it certainly helped me hit the ground running since I had some feel for the contours of the law going in.

The idea of reading Pennoyer in particular, at this point, may only scare you off of law school!  We read it for the first day of Civ Pro and I went in to the first day HATING that class.  It ended up being one of my favorite classes.  In other words, Pennoyer is (in my view) one of the more difficult cases, not really that indicative of what you will be reading, and can be offputting.

As others have said-enjoy the summer, you should be able to do everything you need during the year.  The only prep I did was to listen to the aforementioned podcasts (while driving, walking the dog, etc.) and read a few fun legal books (The Brethern, Becoming Justice Blackmun, Supreme Conflict, etc.) and I was not ill prepared at all, and, FWIW, finished near the top of my class.


This will probably sound pathetic because I know I should know how, but how do I get those podcats on my iPod? I just have your standard Nano...

I see that there are MP3s of them all on the guys site. Can I just download those and drag them into my iTunes? I've never downlodaded a podcast onto my Nano before, I just watch them online usually.

Thanks for all the case suggestions. Again, I'm not trying to glean any great knowledge from them. I just want to get used to reading them.

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General Board / Re: Universal First Year Cases (In any class)
« on: July 21, 2008, 11:44:29 PM »

Does anyone want to help me out and give me the name of a few cases that I will undoubtedly be reading this Fall as a 1L? I was thinking about reading through a couple just to get a feel for the language.

Thanks!

For what purpose?  You're not going to really get much of an idea of how the big cases fit together without class or more thorough study.

And I think most of the big cases are either forced upon you as mere background and now have little to no relevance (pennoyer), or make the most sense when in the context of other things (hadley, if I remember), or can be taught differently depending on what your prof wants you to get out of it (palsgraf and the majority/dissenting opinions), or are just plain incomprehensible (Erie).

And even if you did read it, you could do more harm than good.  Cases in casebooks are heavily edited and you're going to see a whole lot of extra stuff that will detract from the reason you read the cases for class anyway.

Go to the beach or get a margarita somewhere instead.

I'm married and I work full-time (although I am only 23) so I'm not hitting any beaches or pounding tequila on Monday nights. I just want to get a feel for the density of the material, how it is written, etc.

Thanks for the help.

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General Board / Universal First Year Cases (In any class)
« on: July 21, 2008, 10:47:09 PM »

Does anyone want to help me out and give me the name of a few cases that I will undoubtedly be reading this Fall as a 1L? I was thinking about reading through a couple just to get a feel for the language.

Thanks!

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General Board / New or Used books?
« on: July 04, 2008, 03:31:56 PM »

0L here....Do I really need to be sure and buy ALL new books for 1L? I've heard that you don't want to be fighting through someones old footnotes and highlighting, and can completely understand that, but if I look around for lightly marked in casebooks is that cool?

What about LWR books? Would those be different for this scenario?

Thanks!

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taggy mctagersons... :D

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I'm starting at Fayetteville this Fall, so I can tell you a lot about THAT U of Arkansas, but not much about UALR. I will say though, like the above poster said, it does seem like Fayetteville is ranked a bit higher and may be tougher to get into but I think they both carry equal reputation weight within the state. Maybe if you wanted specifically to work in NW Arkansas (newer, affluent, growing region of the state) going to Fayetteville would help just due to contacts. But at the same time, most of the "big" firms in the state are based in Little Rock and sometimes have satellite offices in NW Ark. So both have their advantages and are good schools in my opinion as long as you aren't BigLaw or bust.

The min difference IMO is the atmosphere. U of A-Fayetteville is your ultimate college town and is a GREAT place to live. While I've only visited LR, I don't get the same impression.

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NevertrustKlingons,

What market did you go to school in/are you job seaching in? Or at keast what size market?

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